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Old 08-10-2021, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wizee
Going from 6th to 7th gear, you go from a ratio of 0.88 to 0.71. That’s a drop from 8000 RPM in 6th to 6450 RPM in 7th. That’s a drop of 1550 RPM, much less than 2200.

It would be interesting if Porsche changes the final drive to make 7th a performance gear rather than an overdrive in the GT4 RS. The spacing between 6th and 7th on the GT4 is right in line with spacing between the other gears, so it should be possible to do this.
Perfect, finally someone with some math skill!
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Old 08-10-2021, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
Race car will be under lock and key until the LA Auto Show and I would assume the same will go for the road car. For now we wait like kids on the eve of your birthday!
Any context to the BGB IG stories saying the last GT4 they will ever make?
Old 08-10-2021, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wizee
Going from 6th to 7th gear, you go from a ratio of 0.88 to 0.71. That’s a drop from 8000 RPM in 6th to 6450 RPM in 7th. That’s a drop of 1550 RPM, much less than 2200.

It would be interesting if Porsche changes the final drive to make 7th a performance gear rather than an overdrive in the GT4 RS. The spacing between 6th and 7th on the GT4 is right in line with spacing between the other gears, so it should be possible to do this.
I did make one error:

First of all, the car cannot hit 8,000 rpm in 6th gear - it tops out at 188 mph at 7,462 rpm (aero drag limited). So, when you shift into 7th gear and hit 6,013 rpm on the change, the rev drop is 1,449 rpm with the new lower 7th gear (or the rev drop is down to 5,251 rpm in the old PDK from the GTS, a drop of 2,211 rpm). Sorry for the mistake, but rev drop is not half as much (it's around 34% smaller, a much bigger change than I originally said).

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Old 08-10-2021, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wizee
It would be interesting if Porsche changes the final drive to make 7th a performance gear rather than an overdrive in the GT4 RS. The spacing between 6th and 7th on the GT4 is right in line with spacing between the other gears, so it should be possible to do this.
Agree - the only problem is that if they lower the final drive enough to make Vmax at peak horsepower in 7th gear, it will make 1st gear virtually unusable (but I guess with PDK the need to shift almost immediately is not that big a handicap).

If cost is not an impediment, they should re-gear the whole stack closer together than the above (like they did on the PDK in the GT3).

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Originally Posted by GrantG
I did make one error:

First of all, the car cannot hit 8,000 rpm in 6th gear - it tops out at 188 mph at 7,462 rpm (aero drag limited). So, when you shift into 7th gear and hit 6,013 rpm on the change, the rev drop is 1,449 rpm with the new lower 7th gear (or the rev drop is down to 5,251 rpm in the old PDK from the GTS, a drop of 2,211 rpm). Sorry for the mistake, but rev drop is not half as much (it's around 34% smaller, a much bigger change than I originally said).
Lol…are you still quibbling? I only noted it seemed like a big drop and guessed maybe half of 2200 drop. Whelp, 1400 drop is a lot less than 2200. We’ll give you some partial credit on the redo!
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Lol…are you still quibbling? I only noted it seemed like a big drop and guessed maybe half of 2200 drop. Whelp, 1400 drop is a lot less than 2200. We’ll give you some partial credit on the redo!
Thanks, I live for partial credit
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Thanks, I live for partial credit
I agree; it’s how I got through school!
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I can confirm that the GT4 RS will blow your mind when you read the specs.
Do you know when we will see the car for the first time? 2021?
As far as i know the first deliveries are scheduled for Q2 2022.
Old 08-11-2021, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Knutsm01
Any context to the BGB IG stories saying the last GT4 they will ever make?
This is a valid point.
With european manufactures going all electric in the near future this might be the last of line for Cayman/boxster.

Once the 2022 Cayman RS is launched as the last of the 718 chassis, it is anybodys guess if they will launch a new chassis to get another 5 years from it.

Where does Porsche go after the 992.2 and the 718.2?
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Old 08-11-2021, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Where does Porsche go after the 992.2 and the 718.2?
One word came to mind, but it's not polite and I hope it is wrong.
Old 08-11-2021, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1

Where does Porsche go after the 992.2 and the 718.2?
718 is part of the Boxster/Cayman marketing name. The Porsche chassis code is 982.

AP has already said the 4.0 will soldier on; so have a hint there that there’ll be another iteration…perhaps hybrid on some trim levels but that will be heavy. They can squeeze more out of the small turbos and GPFs meet EU particulate requirements. Porsche will focus of sedan/suv EV/hybridization for corporate emissions in the near term.
Old 08-11-2021, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dane1984
Do you know when we will see the car for the first time? 2021?
As far as i know the first deliveries are scheduled for Q2 2022.
I think someone mentioned November. Is the GT4 RS only going to be in production for model year 2022? Or will it spread out into 2023?
Old 08-11-2021, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
This is a valid point.
With european manufactures going all electric in the near future this might be the last of line for Cayman/boxster.

Once the 2022 Cayman RS is launched as the last of the 718 chassis, it is anybodys guess if they will launch a new chassis to get another 5 years from it.

Where does Porsche go after the 992.2 and the 718.2?
They are already testing the next generation Cayman. There was a recent article on Motor Authority. It looks slightly longer and bigger than current generation.
Old 08-11-2021, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnauto
They are already testing the next generation Cayman. There was a recent article on Motor Authority. It looks slightly longer and bigger than current generation.
Needs more room for turbos and batteries!
Old 08-11-2021, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnauto
They are already testing the next generation Cayman. There was a recent article on Motor Authority. It looks slightly longer and bigger than current generation.
Link? I couldn't find it on their site...


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