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Old 12-27-2022, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LeftLane50mph
Used GT4 with PDK (no LWB, no PCCB) is going for $140K USD…
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-cayman-gt4-4/

126.5K

Since early November used ones are sub 140K from what I have seen. This one had 768 miles.
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Old 12-27-2022, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tonie90
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-cayman-gt4-4/

126.5K

Since early November used ones are sub 140K from what I have seen. This one had 768 miles.
damn, I would’ve taken that if I saw it. comments on BAT say “not a steal” but I think it is…
Old 12-27-2022, 07:53 PM
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I didn't, read it again. I compared a GTS to a GTS.
Yikes. Except the post you responded to was talking about GT4/3. So maybe he saw your response as a comparison to the cars in that post?
Old 12-27-2022, 09:21 PM
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Just got the phone call from one of Top 10 Porsche dealers(Porsche Exchange) in nation. SA confirmed PCNA won’t release more GT4/GT3/Spyder allocations, they won’t produce them moving forward. He just returned my deposit that I put down in April’22. MSRP for the local client. As many folks have shared the same information, apparently it’s happening from my local dealer who I can trust without BS.

I’m so glad to work with the broker to secure one allocation back in Nov. Just wanted to encourage the person who really wants to get the car, work with broker and budget the ADM between 15K to 20K. It should be a few out there but they won’t last long.
Old 12-27-2022, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JKen_0115
Just got the phone call from one of Top 10 Porsche dealers(Porsche Exchange) in nation. SA confirmed PCNA won’t release more GT4/GT3/Spyder allocations, they won’t produce them moving forward. He just returned my deposit that I put down in April’22. MSRP for the local client. As many folks have shared the same information, apparently it’s happening from my local dealer who I can trust without BS.

I’m so glad to work with the broker to secure one allocation back in Nov. Just wanted to encourage the person who really wants to get the car, work with broker and budget the ADM between 15K to 20K. It should be a few out there but they won’t last long.
What'd they say about GT4rs?
Old 12-27-2022, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ksdaoski
What'd they say about GT4rs?
More allocations coming for 3RS and 4RS ONLY. So far they have received 8 x 3RS and 18 x 4RS,
Old 12-27-2022, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JKen_0115
More allocations coming for 3RS and 4RS ONLY. So far they have received 8 x 3RS and 18 x 4RS,
18 4RS allocations for one dealer? Nice, ADM's should be coming down as Porsche pumps out more in the next year+. I'll probably put my PCCB, 6MT, LWB Spyder up for sale soon in anticipation of getting a 4RS allocation at a low ADM.
Old 12-27-2022, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
18 4RS allocations for one dealer? Nice, ADM's should be coming down as Porsche pumps out more in the next year+. I'll probably put my PCCB, 6MT, LWB Spyder up for sale soon in anticipation of getting a 4RS allocation at a low ADM.
Yes one dealer, that’s why they’re on Top 10 list. ADM has been reduced to 50K for the local client and 75K out of state on 4RS. 100K for 3RS.

Just tried to share some data for everyone here.
Old 12-27-2022, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JKen_0115
Just got the phone call from one of Top 10 Porsche dealers(Porsche Exchange) in nation. SA confirmed PCNA won’t release more GT4/GT3/Spyder allocations, they won’t produce them moving forward. He just returned my deposit that I put down in April’22. MSRP for the local client. As many folks have shared the same information, apparently it’s happening from my local dealer who I can trust without BS.

I’m so glad to work with the broker to secure one allocation back in Nov. Just wanted to encourage the person who really wants to get the car, work with broker and budget the ADM between 15K to 20K. It should be a few out there but they won’t last long.
And the spin cycle continues. Some say the GT4 allocations have all been handed out by PCNA, others say more will continue to drop in 2023 and beyond. This and the ADMs reaching zero in short order are such tired talk tracks that seem to be rehashed a couple times a week.
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
And the spin cycle continues. Some say the GT4 allocations have all been handed out by PCNA, others say more will continue to drop in 2023 and beyond. This and the ADMs reaching zero in short order are such tired talk tracks that seem to be rehashed a couple times a week.
hahaha Someone get this guy a beer
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
And the spin cycle continues. Some say the GT4 allocations have all been handed out by PCNA, others say more will continue to drop in 2023 and beyond. This and the ADMs reaching zero in short order are such tired talk tracks that seem to be rehashed a couple times a week.
Honestly, I learned that you cant trust most dealers.
I am new to the Porsche world, but so far I had the pleasure of -
- SA promised me I am first on the MSRP list. Two days later his college from the same dealership calls me (I left him a phone number a year ago and he didn't know I placed a deposit for the MSRP list) to let me know they will be selling the last allocations to the highest bidder.
- SA trying to sell me a dealer-specced Spyder for 25k ADM, promising me there won't be any more allocations to customize - after a few days where I thought about it I said I am not interested as the build isn't exactly what I was looking for. Two hours later he calls me "Insane coincidence - I just received a bonus Spyder allocation from PCNA!"
- So many other stories

My Spyder allocation is from a non-California dealer, and it is so relaxing. It feels like they are actually trying to sell me the car instead of the regular feeling that I get from my local dealers that they are doing me a favor.
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Old 12-27-2022, 10:09 PM
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When we check Porsche.com some day, and the Spyder / GT4 are no longer listed, then we will know for sure.

with that said, I think there’s enough datapoints from various folks on this thread to indicate a high PROBABILITY that MY 23 is the last.

just have to wait till Porsche removes these cars from their website to know for certain.
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Old 12-27-2022, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
And the spin cycle continues. Some say the GT4 allocations have all been handed out by PCNA, others say more will continue to drop in 2023 and beyond. This and the ADMs reaching zero in short order are such tired talk tracks that seem to be rehashed a couple times a week.
In what universe would it benefit a dealership to tell a customer that all allocations are done for, and they are returning deposits? Remember, U.S is the only country I'm aware of that allows for ADM's. The same message has been shared with customers from dealerships all over the world.

Old 12-28-2022, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lilbza
In what universe would it benefit a dealership to tell a customer that all allocations are done for, and they are returning deposits? Remember, U.S is the only country I'm aware of that allows for ADM's. The same message has been shared with customers from dealerships all over the world.
Unfortunately this universe. Ive been told personally by 3 dealers (1 or 2 in the "top 10"

1. No more allocations for spyders, only GT4's
2. No more anything after 6/2023
3. No car for you (not VIP enough, rich enough blah blah)

So yeah I could see it. It just jerks people around. Once the cars aren't on the configurator, then yeah they'll be out of production, until then I would assume a MY23.
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Old 12-28-2022, 09:49 AM
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Dealers have been in total agreement on this. Some very well known dealer principals have confirmed this on Rennlist several times. My dealers in Houston have confirmed the same. Others have confirmed the same from their dealers. These are dealers that whom individuals have GOOD relationships with, not just someone off the street. The outcome of the dealer business meetings in November is not a secret. Not sure where the spin cycle is coming from when everyone is in agreement.

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
And the spin cycle continues. Some say the GT4 allocations have all been handed out by PCNA, others say more will continue to drop in 2023 and beyond. This and the ADMs reaching zero in short order are such tired talk tracks that seem to be rehashed a couple times a week.

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