Kram71

You can use a vin look uo tool to see if you car is a 24 or 25. Mine is a 24. I think yours may be as well. Last update for me was step 3 on July 1. Delivery Sept 16-Dec 23. My sales agent tokd me it will be an October delivery. He said the app will update itself once progress is made. When we ordered my car the allocation said October delivery.

Xxyion

Pretty sure MY depends on allocation date rather than production date. But i could be wrong.

JCtx

I understand anything produced AFTER the August shutdown (which is to change tooling for next MY), would be '25, but since our cars already have a VIN, and it reflects being a '24, they will be produced before shutdown. But if they were produced later, and became a '25, we'd get new pricing, and I would NOT want that, since my 6MT would be over $3K more expensive, and I'd probably pass on it. It's already crazy expensive for what it is. Ha ha. Hopefully somebody will chime in with the shutdown dates; I'm sure they're well known in Germany, so not a secret.

Kram71

I think since our VINs say 2024 that is what we will get. Is it even possible to change that? My car would cost around $3000 more as well. I'm not even sure if it would be better to have a 2024 at $3000 less or a 2025 at $3000 more. I do know when I paid I signed a contract with all the costs including tax with 2024 pricing.

JCtx

I'm sure we'll get our 2024s, and they might already be produced. It's just that Porsche has a lousy system. But if for any reason they were delayed, and would have to be '25s, make no mistake: Porsche wouldn't eat that cost. Ha ha. We'd either take it, or leave it, at the new pricing, and get refunded any deposits if we chose the latter. But you make a good point. With the car being that late, a '25 wouldn't be that far behind. If it was a PDK, which would only cost about $700 more, a '25 would make more sense. With our manuals, it's a toss up. The difference supposedly being about 2 months earlier delivery.

Kram71

Guys on this board said mileage means more than MY so I have tried not to let the MY bother me.

JCtx

That's right, and that's why I went with a $3,400 cheaper 2024.

TeaRex

New to the forum here, long time reader though!

Been a long time porsche enthusiast. Ordered a new 2020 Macan back in 2019 for a daily driver, then I got laid off so my wife stole it for her daily driver!

Well the time finally came this year to get a fun car. Looked at CPO Boxsters for a while, but couldn't justify getting somethung used with 20k miles for only 10-15% off MSRP. I emailed my local dealer and amazingly got an allocation right away for BGTS 4.0!
Current build: https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PSSPBNN9

Might swap back to leather steering wheel rather than CF, and tempted to add leather wrapped steering column per recommendations here.

Current dates:
Freeze 8/15/24
Mfr start 9/9/24
Delivery: 1/18/25, but dealer in-person said Novemberish... hoping for this year!

Kram71

I think it will be worth the wait!

JCtx

So you got an MSRP allocation for a GTS? Was that in Denver? I'd have ordered a GTS at MSRP, but the lowest ADM was 10 grand, so it'd have been $35K ($25K + $10K) over a basically identical SE (except the engine, and SPASM vs PASM). No thank you. A '25 would be $113.5K, vs $110K for a '24... but that ship has sailed. Not sure if I'd do it now at $113.5K though. It's just not worth $25K more than the 2.0T, at least for my use (street and canyons). Maybe it'd make more sense for depreciation, but I ultimately care for the amount lost, not the depreciation %. The only thing that would make me think about an MSRP GTS is if the 4.0 is more reliable than the 2.0T. Is it???

EDIT: Can somebody with a manual GTS 4.0 post the speed at exactly 3K rpm in 6th gear? One of my biggest frustrations about the 6MT on the SE, is 6th is too short for me, yielding only 74 mph @ 3K rpm (and couldn't spec the larger 16.9-gal fuel tank -vs 14.2-, for some reason). On my ex-PDK 981 GTS, I was going over 100 (105, I think) at 3K rpm in 7th. The reason I ask is because just checked the '24 EPA ratings, and the 2.0T 6MT vs PDK is 20/25 vs 21/27, but the 4.0 6MT vs PDK is 17/24 vs 19/24, so hoping 6th is taller on the GTS. It could also be the PDK is shorter, but it has to be one of the 2, so we'll see. Ha ha. Thank you guys.

TeaRex

Yes thats correct- got mine at Littleton Porsche. Prestige imports also has an MSRP GTS 4.0 allocation they offered me even though I have no previous relationship with them.

laurenxesq

If your VIN# was issued in 2024, its a 2024.
I think 2025 starts production after the factory returns from their August shut down.

Xxyion

AFAIK the PDK is shorter as they made that change when introducing the 4.0 as well as the PDK GT4. But i could be wrong.

I'm also surprised you didnt find a GTS at MSRP. My GTS is also going to be MSRP and is a MY 24. Didnt take too much looking and was basically the first dealership i asked.

JCtx

I just texted the GM of my local Porsche, and mentioned to him many dealers are already selling GTSs at MSRP. And he replied today saying he checked with his ownership, and he could do that with a '25, but there are 3 people ahead of me. And he doesn't know how many allocations he'd get for '25, so I could be out of luck. He said the earliest would be Spring '25, but who knows. Not sure I want to wait that long, without knowing I'd get an allocation for sure. But before I even consider that, I'd like to know which engine is more reliable: the 4.0, or 2.5T. Do all engines have that crappy 'thermal management' system that craps out every 5 years or less, like clockwork? What about other issues? To me, a NA engine should be more reliable than a turbo, but rather ask.

And I also think the PDK was probably the transmission changed. I haven't heard of the manual getting different ratios on the GTS 4.0, so it's probably the same identical transmission. If at all, only the final drive could change, but I doubt it's different. However, since the 4.0 revs higher (7,800 vs 7,400, I believe), therefore, even with the same tranny and diff, it'd have taller gearing than the 2.0T. The M4 at least does 80 at 3K rpm in 6th, which is the absolute minimum IMO, but the Cayman does only 74. They waste a lot more gas than necessary that high, but the most disappointing aspect is their small fuel tanks, so range really sucks. I'd be fine with the 16.9-gal, but only the now departed T had that option (as well as SPASM). The GTS would have the larger tank, but also drinks more fuel, so probably about the same limited range.

Xxyion

Yeah not worth doing the GTS now if you already have a car on the way and theres people ahead of you.

As far as reliability goes, i do know that the GTS gets more cooling than the lower trims with the GT4 getting the most for obvious reasons. AFAIK the 4.0 engine is more reliable as its been around longer but its also had more data surrounding it as it was a 911 engine for a while. As far as final drive goes, yes only the PDK was changed to give it shorter ratios. The 4.0 does redline higher which does make the ratios seem longer and its one of the many complaints about the MT in this car. As a lot of people complain (mostly youtube reviewers) that you cant bring it to redline past 2nd gear as you're already at 80 MPH. As far as gas mileage goes, a 2022 Cayman S is reported to get 21 MPG combined, while a 2024 GTS is reported to get 24 mpg combined. So that claims the 4.0 engine is more economical. Most likely it has to do with the cylinder deactivation that happens when cruising, whereas the turbo models only have auto start stop. For comparison when i drove my GT4 back from LA, i was getting 38mpg on the interstate. And that car has a lot more drag so the GTS 4.0 should be closer to 40 mpg for the highway on super long trips with very few stops. I think the key again, is the fact that the 4.0 engines have cylinder deactivation when you're cruising while the 2.0/2.5 engines do not and that makes all the difference.