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Old 09-27-2016, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by squid42
It's a guards read, aerokit cup, full black leather with SC, PSE and Bose. 14-ways.

msrp 121000 -> 70000 now



The buttons look like it has ventilated seats. Not sure whether that might have been included in the launch vehicles?

Actually this isn't an original aerokit cup. It has the sportdesign front spoiler (not cup) and seems to have gotten the cup wing later. The wing is also black on the top, so maybe aftermarket.
It's not a "launch vehicle" - otherwise it would be described as such in the build sheet. (My previous 991S was a launch vehicle.) I don't see ventilated or heated seats on build sheet, either. As for the Aerokit Cup - see what STG said...

2012 Porsche The new 911 Carrera S
Division: PCNA Commission #: 768037 Prod Month: 12/2011 VIN: WP0AB2A95CS121011 Price: $121,615.00 Exterior: Guards Red Interior: Black leather interior Warranty Start: February 29, 2012
Additional Equipment

022 Instrument Dials in Black 176 Sport Exhaust System 250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 427 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel 446 Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest 636 ParkAssist (front and rear) 640 Sport Chrono Package 651 Electric sunroof
Not a bad build, though - full leather, PSE, Sport Chrono.....

Oh wait, no PSP...an obvious deal-breaker... (j/k)
Old 09-27-2016, 07:50 PM
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My 2014 targa 4gts is a launch vehicle, any special options on these?
Old 09-27-2016, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jvmax
My 2014 targa 4gts is a launch vehicle, any special options on these?
I think it was more that PCNA spec'ed them out instead of the dealers or customers... No 'special' options.
Old 09-27-2016, 10:32 PM
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In all seriousness, is not having PSP a big deal to most of you? In other words, if you purchased a CPO vehicle with PSP, would you pay your dealer to take it off?

My incoming vehicle does have it, and I think every 991 I test drove during my search had it as well, so I haven't had the opportunity to experience the difference.
Old 09-28-2016, 01:46 AM
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This one just popped at Porsche of West Broward, no pics yet:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...39839247&Log=0





Burmester, 18-ways, premium plus package, and the all important HFS bonus option, Power-Steering Plus
Old 09-28-2016, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mdow
In all seriousness, is not having PSP a big deal to most of you? In other words, if you purchased a CPO vehicle with PSP, would you pay your dealer to take it off?
It's a bad joke that won't die, confusing to newbies who really don't understand that all referrals to it being an important option are sarcastic... Nobody really wants or needs PSP.

It is the antithesis of an essential option, and that I guess is the heart of the sarcasm. Hurricane can't seem to resist poking fun at the option in virtually every post. The problem is that Porsche has so many options and features with similar acronyms: PSM good. PASM good. PSE good. PDCC good or bad depending on who you ask. SPASM usually good depending on how/where you drive. PSP worthless. Most newbies can't keep all the acronym/options straight, so it's confusing when the cool kids constantly refer to a useless option as an important option.

If you buy a car with the option, you can have the dealer turn it off with their PIWIS programmer (likely for an hour labor charge) or just live with the overboosted steering at very low speeds.
Old 09-28-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
It's a bad joke that won't die, confusing to newbies who really don't understand that all referrals to it being an important option are sarcastic... Nobody really wants or needs PSP.

It is the antithesis of an essential option, and that I guess is the heart of the sarcasm. Hurricane can't seem to resist poking fun at the option in virtually every post. The problem is that Porsche has so many options and features with similar acronyms: PSM good. PASM good. PSE good. PDCC good or bad depending on who you ask. SPASM usually good depending on how/where you drive. PSP worthless. Most newbies can't keep all the acronym/options straight, so it's confusing when the cool kids constantly refer to a useless option as an important option.

If you buy a car with the option, you can have the dealer turn it off with their PIWIS programmer (likely for an hour labor charge) or just live with the overboosted steering at very low speeds.
IMO it's best not to overthink this stuff. Just make sure it's an "S" (at least) and you have the right transmission for YOU (not the next owner). Then just drive it and enjoy it!
Old 09-28-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul007
Just make sure it's an "S" (at least) and you have the right transmission for YOU (not the next owner).
You got the transmission part right IMO.
Old 09-28-2016, 08:59 AM
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Porsche went to Electric steering on the 991 after hydraulic up to the 997 as a standard feature.

PSP = Power Steering Plus is an option. Purely software that gives you even more ease when turning the wheel at slower parking lot speeds (maybe up to 20mph). Most will say OVERKILL! Can be dealer installed and uninstalled.

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Old 09-28-2016, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by STG



Porsche went to Electric steering on the 991 after hydraulic up to the 997 as a standard feature.

PSP = Power Steering Plus is an option. Purely software that gives you even more ease when turning the wheel at slower parking lot speeds (maybe up to 20mph). Most will say OVERKILL! Can be dealer installed and uninstalled.
Porsche's new sales pitch for PSP:

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Originally Posted by mdow
In all seriousness, is not having PSP a big deal to most of you? In other words, if you purchased a CPO vehicle with PSP, would you pay your dealer to take it off?

My incoming vehicle does have it, and I think every 991 I test drove during my search had it as well, so I haven't had the opportunity to experience the difference.
Both my previous and current 991S have PSP. I like it - the car is very easy to maneuver around a parking lot. I also autocross and don't notice any different steering feel during runs (it is only implemented at lower speeds).

That being said, not sure I would spec it out on a new one but as far as a used or CPO one...if it has it, fine, I won't go through the trouble of deactivating it (it works just fine for me). If a used or CPO didn't have it, that would be fine, too.
Old 09-28-2016, 03:40 PM
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:57 PM
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Nice build!

That seems like a good deal based its options, and comps on the locator. I would ask why they did not CPO the car.

List price + CPO would make it a great deal

https://admin.porschedealer.com/repo...AB2A96ES120355
Old 09-28-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fat Kid
Nice build!

That seems like a good deal based its options, and comps on the locator. I would ask why they did not CPO the car.

List price + CPO would make it a great deal

https://admin.porschedealer.com/repo...AB2A96ES120355
Agreed! love the build, especially the 18-way seats. if it were a C4S (non-aero), I'd be all over it.
Old 09-28-2016, 04:02 PM
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I agree with Hurricane, I kinda like it. Albeit, I'm not a experienced race car driver or track my car. Mine is a DD. IMHO it's not a big deal. If you find a car you like with the other important options that you need and it does or doesn't have PSP forget about it and get your car.
If it has it I wouldn't spend the money to get rid of it. I had a 997 4S and loved that car. When the 991 came out lots of people said the interior had to many new creature comforts and didn't have the feel of a true Porsche anymore. As a DD I really like the improvements. To each his own I guess......I remember when I was looking and obsessing about all the options, my pal STG helped me figure it out. It's already difficult to find all the things you have to have along with color etc, trust me I know! Ha This car is unreal and you'll love it. Just my option......
Good luck and have fun!


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