It's called common sense and ability to comprehend. That is what you are missing.

 

OK, so I am dumb and blind .. at least I'm not deaf.

So help me understand.
Why is Alonso not dominant? Is it your contention that it is simply impossible in this (NO INSEASON TESTING) era of F1 (we'll skip the whole simulator issue for now) for ANY driver to be dominant?

I could point to Vettel this season as a dominant driver in this era.
Is it the car?

When someone says "the best", you typically associate that with dominance and championships, which since joining Ferrari, Alonso hasn't demonstrated.

So, I ask the question, why not?

 

Its difficult if not impossible to quantify, but I would expect the differences in the top three marques- measured in tenths during qualifying- to narrow in the wet/damp and the emphasis to shift from the car to the drover.

As the race progresses tire strategy and related pit stops takes over as the dominant factor. Also as pointed out, a better drover in a faster car could get blown away by a lesser driver/car on the right tire. Don't recall the exact race but I recall Kobayashi just driving around people on well worn tires. So at least the beginning of a race when most if not all are on similar unworn tires , it should be the best way to judge relative performance- all other things being equal. Trouble is- they never are.

 

F1 has always been about the car/team first and the driver second. The cars don't drive themselves, so you do need a good driver to win. But put any driver from a mid tier team and put them in a top tier team and they too could win races. Nico Rosberg has yet to win a race. Is this because Rosberg has no talent? or because he has yet to drive in a top tier team? You be the judge.

There is definitely something going on at Ferrari and while I am sure Alonso is the better driver, I also suspect Massa just does not give a damn anymore. Massa problably has a dart board in his home with a picture of Timo Glock on it. Ever since Massa lost the WDC to Hamilton thanks to Hamilton's seamlessly easy pass on Glock on the last few turns of the last lap of the 2008 Brazilian GP, Felipe has not seemed the same.

 

Schumcher has never won when he has had competition ..NEVER !!!!!! Same fate for VETTEL ...

Your reference for an era is one year ..... Interesting !!!!

Yes agree ..... Maybe it's a picture of C2, a shame if it's not ....

 

So Hamilton/Button from McLaren, Alonso/Massa in Ferrari, not to mention Webber in the identical Red Bull are not competitive?

But I forget ... Red Bull is willing to throw away millions of dollars in Constructor Championship points to purposely sabotage Mark Webber's car to allow Vettel to finish ahead of Webber. Red Bull is willing to throw away millions of dollars in Constructor Championship points to allow McLaren and Ferrari to finish ahead of Webber all because of this Vettel conspiracy you have fabricated in your head? You really do need to watch the BBC post race Alonso interview closely listen to what he has to say about Vettel. Alonso is not the one acting like fool with conspiracy theories.

 

Ugghh... I left these F1 threads for a while and upon coming back I see it's the same old, same old...

I thought it was a great race yesterday, but then I must be strange 'cause I like Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton, Button etc. all at the same time. The racing has been really high-caliber this year with quality driving all through the field.

 

I totally agree with your statement. 2011 is becoming a season to remember

 

Ok.... after learning of your condition i will go easy with you . There is no one else with a car as fast as the RB, on the tracks where they get close , they beat Vettel , everytime .... GET IT ....

See..... Competitive .. as in close ... they beat him , he only wins when the REDBULL flys away, same as Stooley before him. He is not at the same level as Alonso and or Hamilton, most times he is on par with Webber , sometimes not, he is nothing special , never was and never will be he is a FAUX, like button, like Stooley, they look good when the game lets them look good , like Button after Mclaren Pegged lewis and brought him in for that special tire change , go back and check how many times it has happened to lewis , tires or fuel , they control his pace that way , he is only allowed to fly When Button is hopelessly out of the picture ...


Ciao.......................

 

Dude I feel your pain. There was good dialog an sensible discussion prior to Alonsos first won of the year. Unfortunately that win unlocked the A Wayne cage that he had been locked up since Petrov broke it off in Alonsos back side the last race of 2010. I can't stomach all the nonsense either with this clown so I'm dialing it back.

Have to agree that the rule changes have made even the Hungarian GP look good. Can't wait for Spa and Monza up next!!!

 

Dialing it back to flame throwers and bazookas. That's OK. Don't even think about dialing it back any more. RL is slow and boring enough these days.

 

Your daily reminder. Where is a quote showing me being a detractor or a hater. Please post!

 

Wait a minute...Alonso won a race...where is Luis de Prat

 

Someone spotted Nelsoshino Piquet at that race but it is only rumor at this point....

 

'00, '01?