Plyman438

I was going to stay out of this, but I can't help myself. I will add that Patrick is fast, smooth, stays out of trouble for the most part, finishes most races, easy on equipment, has not really been in a serious crash and for most part avoided serious injury, and in general is not a back marker in most races. I'm kind of surprised with this record she has not won more races than one so far. A few times she has come close to being in the winner's circle, but came up just short in last few remaining laps. I know at Detroit Grand Prix a few years ago she almost won as the front runners took themselves out by crashing into one another, but again she came up just short at the end. That was one tough course at Belle Isle with barriers on both sides with one small mistake taking you out.

Land Jet

Her one and only win was from fuel strategy, OK I'll give her that. What I won't give her is that she is a winning percentage race car driver and a champion. Defend her all you like, you must believe the media hype surrounding her. I have seen the results of her career and I don't think she is anything special when it comes to the actual racing.

Ritter v4.0

If you are online- Bloomberg is running a update on her in about a minute. Hurry!

Jim Child

Who's calling her a champion? And, no I don't believe all the media hype. She's clearly overexposed in the media. But unlike you I can understand and appreciate race results. The fact is that she's won an Indy Car race, and closely contested a number of others. It certainly doesn't make her a champion, but it's more than a lot of her competitors can say.

Plyman438

So let's be fair minded and sum it up like this......she is a good racer, but not great, and she came along when the Indy series really needed someone like her. The Indy series had become very boring, and even the Indy 500 has lost much of its previous luster with one chassis and one engine manufacturer plus a lot of no name drivers. Now more top notch drivers have come on board, and there is talk of more engine manufacturers coming on board next year with body kits to differentiate the race cars even more. Names like Patrick, Andretti, and Rahal don't hurt either. Just as females make great fighter pilots and aviation pilots in general, I see more females coming into the sport and doing great. Lots of females racing at local PCA events in my area also and owning Porsches. It sure gets my attention.

winders

You might what to look at post #8. Then look at post #13. I don't see anything in the OP's posts that suggests he thinks her problem is that she gets to much attention. He pretty much suggests she should end her racing career because of a lack of results.

You have no idea how much Danica puts into her driving versus her brand. You are assuming because she is a better marketer than driver that she puts more time in on her brand.

Scott

wanna911

Troll?

My point is not sexist. It's very well true and some of her biggest fans openly admit they get aroused by more than her driving.

Sorry the truth bothers you.

Land Jet

PC people can't handle the truth. It's one of the reasons why they fall all over themselves calling others sexist when we don't worship at the alter of her womanhood rather than her actual record.

CAM14

From what I’ve seen of her in interviews, on track, and off track; I personally, I do not care for her at all as a driver or even as a person. Her record as a driver is OK at best plus see seems very arrogant. But, she brings sponsorship money in and the general masses seem to follow the race series closer because “a quite girl” is in it. This thread is a great example of stirring up interest in IRL just because Danica is around. So, while she is not good for the individual races, she does seem to be good for the overall series. Just one more point of proof that life is not fair.

Tangent – I think I read earlier in this thread that NASCAR drivers are not allowed to race at Indy, why?

Jim Child

They're allowed to race at Indy, but its not practical for them to do so. If you finish the 500 miles at Indy you're most likely going to miss the drivers meeting at Charlotte even if you make your way there as quickly as possible by private jet. The penalty for missing the drivers meeting is to start from the back. That's a handicap that most drivers and their owners are not willing to accept.

NASCAR could give drivers attempting both races a break, but they choose not to do so. There is no reason why a crew chief shouldn't be able to represent his driver at the meeting. They could also video the meeting and force the driver to watch it before the start to claim his grid position. When drivers attempt the "Double" it increases interest in both races.

hacker-pschorr

Thank you for further proving my point.

Thanks x2...

I was just handed a coupon for a free ticket to the Milwaukee Mile race. Guess who is pictured?
Yup, the driver currently ranked 15th in the IRL points standing.

Will this sell more tickets? Probably, hard to say.

Historically over-hyped athletes do not have a very loyal or long lasting fan base. Then add in the drama with her attitude......remember her tossing her entire team under the bus at Indy?

Someone needs to hire her a coach that has the ***** to grab her by the helmet and say: "Shut up and drive".
Or just go to NASCAR where mid-pack performance = big payout.

winders

Hacker-Pschorr,

You have no business being a moderator......

Scott

Krokodil

You have no interest in the truth or facts of any kind. I am quite fine with the truth, in fact it is the only thing that matters much to me.

Remember the Paul Tracy thread where you claimed that PT had not won anything? What was my response? I posted the facts (race record) to prove you wrong (which you acknowledged), just as I did here before you came after me without the same admission.

Thread link: https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...-say-more.html

So, do I have a thing for PT too? No, I just cannot stand people posting BS with no regard to the facts. It demonstrates your bias.

You posted a bunch of BS about DP not being competitive against her peers. This is just plain factually untrue. This is my only point. Never did I once claim that she was not overhyped, etc. I believe she is, but that is not relevant in any way to her record that you refuse to acknowledge.

If you actually knew me you would never make the PC claim as it is absurd.

Frank Bullitt

25:1 if that. Some dude from the Sports Book.

The driver that you are clearly not going to want any part of on Sunday is the suddenly infamous Danica Patrick (Odds to Win the Indy 500: 25 to 1 at SportBet Sportsbook). We know that it’s a “sexy” pick in more ways than one to bet on Patrick, but the truth of the matter is that she just isn’t that great of a driver. A novelty, sure, but when push comes to shove, she doesn’t have the horses behind her, nor does she really have the team to be able to keep up with the rest of the boys in this field. Don’t be shocked if she is once again nowhere to be found in the top of the charts by the time this race is over. By any other name, Patrick wouldn’t even have odds on the board for the Indy 500, as she would likely just be a part of the field.

Should be interesting nevertheless.

Frank Bullitt

The Hacker-Pschorr beer tent in Munich is where I once met a Teutonic Goddess years ago, taking such good care of me during that weekend... I almost renounced my American citizenship!

But THIS Hacker actually has a keen sense of humor and can smell BS a mile off, which is highly unusual for these types of Rednecks. Good stuff all around dude. Why you hatin' so damn much these days?