Received my new PIWIS III
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Viper pilot (01-04-2023)
#1262
Asking for information about retrieving a piece of software myself to avoid buying stolen property is a legitimate question.
If, in 84 pages of discussion, this information wasn't shared, or you just don't know, that's fine too. I just don't understand why you feel the need to be sarcastic.
#1263
You are asking for FREE software yet you then assume a high and noble position of not wanting to get (since free does not man buy) software of dubious origin. What other free software of non dubious origins marketed for commercial purposes have you gotten lately?
As I said, FREE is what it is and buying a license is what it is. Decide which one you can live with and do that.
siberian
As I said, FREE is what it is and buying a license is what it is. Decide which one you can live with and do that.
siberian
#1264
You are asking for FREE software yet you then assume a high and noble position of not wanting to get (since free does not man buy) software of dubious origin. What other free software of non dubious origins marketed for commercial purposes have you gotten lately?
As I said, FREE is what it is and buying a license is what it is. Decide which one you can live with and do that.
siberian
As I said, FREE is what it is and buying a license is what it is. Decide which one you can live with and do that.
siberian
About the "dubious origin" - when I get an unpatched piece of software myself, I can dump it into IDA and see what's going on - and feel more comfortable connecting this software to my $130k car.
When I get a locked computer with a locked BIOS and a non-admin account to use - not so much.
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Z06jerry (02-12-2023)
#1266
Still not sure why you even responded to me in the first place. I asked, "is it possible to install Piwis III for free on a new machine" - it is clear you don't want to or just can't help with the asked question.
#1267
Great place to start for those who want to do things on their own
https://t-ru.onion.ly/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6022541
https://t-ru.onion.ly/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6022541
#1268
Yes.
There is a difference between pirating a movie to watch in your living room alone (which is also wrong) to pirating a movie to monetize it by screening it in your backyard and selling tickets to the entire neighborhood. Not saying I won't eventually buy a ticket if it is the only place around to see the movie and I don't have any other option - but I don't think it is hard to understand why I would prefer to avoid this if possible.
There is a difference between pirating a movie to watch in your living room alone (which is also wrong) to pirating a movie to monetize it by screening it in your backyard and selling tickets to the entire neighborhood. Not saying I won't eventually buy a ticket if it is the only place around to see the movie and I don't have any other option - but I don't think it is hard to understand why I would prefer to avoid this if possible.
The only fully legal PIWIS license is the one you purchase from Porsche. Downloading it for free from a sketchy bit torrent does not somehow make you more law abiding or righteous than the person who pays to download it.
#1269
So, you want to be a software pirate yourself, but think paying a pirate is wrong? Kind of like saying stealing is OK, but buying stolen goods is wrong. A strange sort of moral relativism.
The only fully legal PIWIS license is the one you purchase from Porsche. Downloading it for free from a sketchy bit torrent does not somehow make you more law abiding or righteous than the person who pays to download it.
The only fully legal PIWIS license is the one you purchase from Porsche. Downloading it for free from a sketchy bit torrent does not somehow make you more law abiding or righteous than the person who pays to download it.
And just to make it crystal clear - I have zero issues with the people paying to download this or getting help with setting this up. My problem is only with the sellers side.
#1270
To be perfectly honest, it isn't such a moral thing; I am just disgusted by the audacity some people have to make a business out of something that isn't theirs, it is stolen, and they didn't even steal it themselves! They just take someone else's work and generosity to help the community and charge for it and it is disgusting, and if possible, I don't want to be a part of it.
And just to make it crystal clear - I have zero issues with the people paying to download this or getting help with setting this up. My problem is only with the sellers side.
And just to make it crystal clear - I have zero issues with the people paying to download this or getting help with setting this up. My problem is only with the sellers side.
What you downloaded is real garbage, if your car is dear to you, spend some money and buy high-quality software, if you are as righteous as you write, then 25,000 euro and you will have a piwis kit in your hands, an empty dealer software that you can't do anything with without online access, and if you need full online access to the Porsche server, then add another 23,600 euro per year with taxes. I'm always interested in watching people who feel sorry to spend $ 200-500, but really want to get and own what other people have done, the software that everyone uses here, you won't buy from any Porsche representative, they simply won't sell it to you for any money, unless you get a job as an engineer on a Porsche factory somewhere in Germany, then yes, you will get it for free, along with a laptop in which it will be crypted
Last edited by FerdinandAG; 01-04-2023 at 01:40 PM.
#1271
only thanks to Russian and Chinese hackers, you have the opportunity to work with the software using engineering versions, Chinese VAS6154 and VAS6154 OEM or in any other case, you would have made a trip to a Porsche dealer every time and would have left $ 500 at the checkout.
What you downloaded is real garbage, if your car is dear to you, spend some money and buy high-quality software, if you are as righteous as you write, then 25,000 euros and you will have a piwis kit in your hands, an empty dealer software that you can't do anything with without online access, and if you need full online access to the Porsche server, then add another 23,600 euros per year with taxes. I'm always interested in watching people who feel sorry to spend $ 200-500, but really want to get and own what other people have done, the software that everyone uses here, you won't buy from any Porsche representative, they simply won't sell it to you for any money, unless you get a job as an engineer on a Porsche factory somewhere in Germany, then yes, you will get it for free, along with a laptop in which it will be crypted
What you downloaded is real garbage, if your car is dear to you, spend some money and buy high-quality software, if you are as righteous as you write, then 25,000 euros and you will have a piwis kit in your hands, an empty dealer software that you can't do anything with without online access, and if you need full online access to the Porsche server, then add another 23,600 euros per year with taxes. I'm always interested in watching people who feel sorry to spend $ 200-500, but really want to get and own what other people have done, the software that everyone uses here, you won't buy from any Porsche representative, they simply won't sell it to you for any money, unless you get a job as an engineer on a Porsche factory somewhere in Germany, then yes, you will get it for free, along with a laptop in which it will be crypted
#1272
lmao, garbage? own? what are you talking about? there are hundreds of people selling the exact same thing. do you really think each and every one of them bought it from Porsche for 25k and warezed it? do you think each and every one of them got a job at a dealership and stole it? let me break the news to you - this isn't the case
#1273
No. That's what they are trying to tell you. The only "non-hacked" PIWIS is the OEM.
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