siberian

Good points John. Does the obdeleven accept the new long data labels?

I've got one slot left on my VAG-COM of the 5 I bought the license for, so unless I need to get more vehicles I'd like to not have to learn yet another architecture. Yes, Lambo, VDub, Bentley, Skoda etc. all work - didn't know BMW was also on the list but since I'm not into them ... but nice to know.

As @rainer mentioned given it's not available on a tablet yet, the smaller the better while keeping in mind being able to actually see the screen. As I mentioned my Lenovo is great but that's all it will ever be used for. As for pre-M1s, yes I have 3 Santa Rosa flavor MBP for just those eventualities.

siberian

JB911

>>As for VMware mechine, it will works on windows as long as it has the same vhardware version.
If it was build on V mware 17 on the mac, it must be played using same vmware version on windows.

I'm not even sure how I would bring in my running Piwis VMs into a Windows laptop, but I'll look into it, thanks for all the replies-
Since the laptop is being looked at to see if it can be repaired, I can't recall exactly which version of Fusion it has, it was limited to the OSX High Sierra and it couldn't go beyond that OS-I believe it was Fusion 11.5, and the VM 16 or something-


But if I can import the PIWIS VM into a Lenovo, it's something to consider. Quite a mess

Thanks again,

JB

Anazazi

Hey JB911-
I'm looking at getting a PIWIS clone and looking for vendor recommendations.
It's for my 2008 Cayenne S, but I may get a newer Porsche in the future.
I've gone through this thread and a couple others, and I'm more baffled and confused.
It seems like you've done a TON of research on the subject, so what did you end up getting and from what vendor?
PIWIS II or PIWIS III?

Thanks

Phil

JB911

Hi Anazazi,
Right here on the list, contact or PM rnlst_log, there are different PIWIS III versions/options on the best one to suit you-as discussed previously above, those are some laptop options. You need the VCI too, from eBay or Alibaba, firmware 1.6.6

Best,
JB

JB911

Well, I just got Parallels on my M1 Mac, and now running Windows 11. I think I read that some PIWIS versions are available running on Windows 10, so if PIWIS can run on Windows 11, maybe then I could install it(?)

JB

siberian

Confirm it works on Win10 at least for 40.600. Due to upgrade to 41.400.20 shortly

siberian

JB911

From Garage forum:

• Piwis 3 - Last Full Engineering for any PC (new Engineering PIDT 40.950)
• great features for the latest Porsche models
• the ability to work with cars of the entire Porsche model range at the engineering level
• windows 7/ 8/ 10/ 11

JB911

Since Piwis is now available in Windows 10 and 11, and my new Parallels setup is running Windows 11 faster than most Windows laptops, I wonder if I could instal a Piwis version right in Windows, or a newly created Virtual version specifically for Parallels 18-
These newly created Windows 10 and 11 versions of Piwis are quite expensive since they are the latest software versions of Piwis, which I really don't need since my car is a 997.2 GT3.

For me, the cost/benefit now is buying yet another laptop, Windows or 15" Intel Mac(without the self combusting logic board), or finding a solution to use this M1 Silicon Mac with Parallels which will not run my old Piwis VMs

JB

rnlst_log

[QUOTE=JB911;18592723]Since Piwis is now available in Windows 10 and 11, and my new Parallels setup is running Windows 11 faster than most Windows laptops, I wonder if I could instal a Piwis version right in Windows, or a newly created Virtual version specifically for Parallels 18-

Definitly workable.

Lucifer

It isn't clear from your post if you want to install Piwis on an M1\2 Mac or an intel one

JB911

And come to think of it, when I ran Durametric on my smoked Intel MacBook before I got the Piwis VMs, the process in that case was quite simple-open Windows 7 or 10 in VMWare Fusion, go to their site, download the Durametric software and install-
And it looks like Parallels won the battle against Fusion VMWare, at least for now-

And since this thread has become the major source for information on rennlist, it would be nice to list the best Piwis versions for which cars-it's understood that some have engineering/ development, others don't(what dealers would have spent money on the official setup and not get the full versions?) 992 owners for instance would need a different version than 991 and 997 ones, and the Panamera, Macan, Cayenne and other models are also subject to different generations and versions-

From memory, 37.250.20 was a great version for people with older cars- I was on Garageforum.org for quite sometime last night, and today the site can't even be reached for some reason-the site is down for some reason.
Here's a site showing similar websites as garageforum, I'll look at them out of curiosity:
https://www.similarweb.com/website/g...g/competitors/

As some may have seen, mhhauto has heated insane discussions with theft accusations, it's nuts

Best,
JB

JB911

From 'the internets" :


More details about versions:

38.200 Windows 8 x64
The most complete engineer (makes start-stop enable/disable offline until 2018)
Works poorly on K-line from 98-2008 (987 DME, 986 MAF, 996 DME and the like) (mediocre coverage of old cars from the PIWIS 1 program)
Model range coverage from 1998-2018

38.200.17 Windows 8 x64
What's new, if compare with 38.200
Improved communication with VCI
Update after 8888 days

38.250 Windows 8 x64
Full Engineer (updated online)
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Model range coverage from 1998-2018
Switching between versions 38.250 and 38.900 takes place inside the PIWIS program

38.400 Windows 8 x64
In engineering mode, you can no longer enable or disable the start-stop function
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Model range coverage from 1998-2018

38.900 Windows 8 x64
Engineering features at level 39.400 with the Taycan
Updated online with the most complete engineer
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Model range coverage from 1998-2020
Assembly works online with the original device 8888 days
On disk E there is an assembly of firmware up to 39.900 folder flashdaten
Switching between versions 38.250 and 38.900 occurs inside the PIWIS program

39.500 Windows 8 x64
More stripped down engineering functions compared to 38.400
Added support for new car models, including Taycan
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Coverage of the car model range 1998-2020
Upgradeable from SDFlash

39.500 Windows 10 x64
More stripped down engineering functions compared to 38.400
Added support for new car models, including Taycan
Added to the image: a set of firmware from previous versions, PET2 with online update
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Coverage of the car model range 1998-2020

39.700 Windows 8 x64
More stripped down engineering functions compared to 39.500
Works poorly on K-line (like 38.200) (mediocre PIWIS 1 coverage)
Added to the image: a set of firmware from previous versions, PET2 with online update and WDS 2017
Coverage of the car model range 1998-2018

39.800 Windows 8 x64
No engineering menu!
CFS search not working (offline guided troubleshooting) now only PPN online (dealer access required)
Online wiring diagrams (dealer access required)
Full functionality in V mode (dealer) (automatic offline programming and coding works, provided that there are offline files/firmware databases, but the firmware database can be purchased from me for $40)
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Coverage of the car model range 1998-2020

39.900 Windows 8 x64
No engineering menu!
CFS search does not work (offline guided fault finding) now only PPN online
Wiring diagrams work
Full functionality in V mode (dealer) (automatic offline programming and coding works, provided that there are offline files)
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Coverage from 1998-2020

40.000 Windows 8 or 10 x64
Dealer version full
Engineering features at 39.500 even better
Start-stop active and Sport plus
No coding for the latest Cayenne and Panamera
Macan encodings are present
There is a new car 935
Added 50 new firmware for new cars
CFS and wiring work
Works with K-line (good PIWIS 1 coverage)
Coverage of the car model range 1998-2021
PET2 8.0 with online update
Bases from previous versions can be purchased from us for $40

40.400 Windows 8 x64
All modes work E, P, V
August version
New firmware, more than 100 pieces
Encodings, parameters
Don't ask for updates
An engineer in Taycan can do more

40.600 Windows 8 or 10 x64
All modes work E, P, V
Version from 10.2021
Engineering menu works
The ECU firmware has changed in automatic mode, now the blocks are determined automatically and the parameters are filled in with changes for a specific control unit automatically
There is a Porsche PET 8.0 633

40.900 + 38.250 Win 8 x64
Both versions work on 1 Windows
All modes work E, P, V, 38.250 All modes work E, P, V + Full Engineering
CFS 2021 (Fault Finding)
Porsche PET 8.0 (657 updates), free online updates
Database of new firmware and coding of Porsche Taycan and Cayenne E3
Wiring Diagram
PiUS

41.300 + 38.250 Win 10 x64
Both versions work on 1 Windows
41.300 V/E modes, Full Engineering (1-st web version Piwis 4) + 38.250 V/E/P models, Full Engineering
For PT3G (V1, V2) or VAS6154 clone
Firmwares and coding for Taycan and E3 included
CFS 2021 (Fault Finding)
Porsche PET 8.0 (668 updates), free online updates
Wiring Diagram
PiUS

Piwis 41.400 + 38.350 Win 10 x64
41.400 V/E modes, Full Engineering + 38.250 V/E/P models, Full Engineering
for PT 3G (V1,V2) or Vas6154 clone
Last campaign for Taycan and E3 included
CFS 2021 (Fault Finding)
PPN service is available with this version.
Porsche PET 8.0 (682 update), free online updates
Wiring Diagram
PiUS

Piwis 41.600 + 38.250 Win 8 x64
41.600 V/E modes, Full Engineering + 38.250 V/E/P models, Full Engineering
for PT3G (V1, V2) or VAS6154 clone
CFS 2021 (Fault Finding)
Porsche PET 8.0 (693 update)
Wiring Diagram
PiUS

Notes for all versions:

• In engineer mode, the block names are in German.
  
• Enabling additional functions and obtaining a programming code if dealer access is available.
  
• The AirBag is readable only when the ignition is off.
  
• Americans with shot pads don't count. And you cannot erase the crash date, only at the dealer.
  
• PPN does not work with VAS6154
  
• No version does not guarantee full coverage of all blocks for old cars as in PIWS 1. Therefore, for full support, you must use PIWIS 2 and Samtec VCI.
  
• All Piwis versions with VAS6154 clone cannot encode the headlights due to the lack of baud rate of the VAS6154
  
• Piwis 3 will work with VAS6154 clone with firmware 1.6.6.0, Porsche original tool or AllScanner tool.

Piwis 1 1998-2008
Piwis 2 2008-2016
Piwis 3 2016 -...

Romulus90

N/m

8933103

Hey rnlst_log , just reaching out about a PIWIS 3 setup. Tried to DM you but apparently my account is too new <- however I think you can message me.
Apologies if Im going about this wrong, my brain feels fried from reading countless pages on diagnostic tools.

JB911

It is quite a bit of reading, and options depending on which car you have and what you need-that's why I posted the versions above-
I'm also deciding which option to take-
JB