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06-07-2016, 08:21 PM
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Until somebody puts lighter wheels and stickier tires on a track pack non-R and tests it back-to-back with an R, it will be impossible to know how much of the difference goes beyond wheels and tires. As I'm sure you already know, changing tire compounds can have a huge impact on both the objective and subjective subjective attributes of any car, particularly near the limit on track.
06-07-2016, 09:12 PM
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Until somebody puts lighter wheels and stickier tires on a track pack non-R and tests it back-to-back with an R, it will be impossible to know how much of the difference goes beyond wheels and tires. As I'm sure you already know, changing tire compounds can have a huge impact on both the objective and subjective subjective attributes of any car, particularly near the limit on track.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-first-drive/
Beyond the tires and wheels, it's noted that the R has more aggressive aero and different suspension tuning.
If I had no cars right now and was looking to buy a streetable track car, I think I might take a 350R (at MSRP) over anything else out there. Will be a shame if Ford doesn't build enough of them to meet the demand.
06-07-2016, 10:57 PM
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I've followed this whole thread, but I don't remember seeing the 2017 price list published here anywhere, though it came out a couple months ago. If this is a repeat and old news, forgive me, but I copied it from the mustang forum for my own reference:
At about $64K for a stripper R, I could be convinced.
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06-07-2016, 11:37 PM
#1114
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Agreed, but ... here's another review comparing the 350 and 350R on track and finding the difference to be large:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-first-drive/
Beyond the tires and wheels, it's noted that the R has more aggressive aero and different suspension tuning.
If I had no cars right now and was looking to buy a streetable track car, I think I might take a 350R (at MSRP) over anything else out there. Will be a shame if Ford doesn't build enough of them to meet the demand.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-first-drive/
Beyond the tires and wheels, it's noted that the R has more aggressive aero and different suspension tuning.
If I had no cars right now and was looking to buy a streetable track car, I think I might take a 350R (at MSRP) over anything else out there. Will be a shame if Ford doesn't build enough of them to meet the demand.
Agree with you totally on Ford needing to build more of these, both R and non-R. The track enthusiast community needs more choices for well-engineered, track worthy cars that are reasonably priced.
06-08-2016, 10:07 AM
#1115
Burning Brakes
As I posted earlier...........
As of 2017 dealer allocation will allow 1 R for every 2 Base GT350's sold. 2016 only allowed 1 for every 3. So theoretically there will be more available.
As of 2017 dealer allocation will allow 1 R for every 2 Base GT350's sold. 2016 only allowed 1 for every 3. So theoretically there will be more available.
06-08-2016, 12:52 PM
#1117
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Treynor has both a GT350 Track Pack and a GT350R - someone asked him if there is a big difference...below is his reply.
The differences between the R and the track pack 350 are incremental. On the street the non R is the car of choice - more feedback from the tires at street apeeds, more ride compliance, better seats, and less interior noise. At the track the situation is reversed: The R has significantly more grip due to its tires, and stiffer suspension offers faster responses. The R seats which are confining in street use are supportive and grippy at track speeds.
Can't go wrong with either.
The differences between the R and the track pack 350 are incremental. On the street the non R is the car of choice - more feedback from the tires at street apeeds, more ride compliance, better seats, and less interior noise. At the track the situation is reversed: The R has significantly more grip due to its tires, and stiffer suspension offers faster responses. The R seats which are confining in street use are supportive and grippy at track speeds.
Can't go wrong with either.
06-08-2016, 01:04 PM
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Treynor has both a GT350 Track Pack and a GT350R - someone asked him if there is a big difference...below is his reply.
The differences between the R and the track pack 350 are incremental. On the street the non R is the car of choice - more feedback from the tires at street apeeds, more ride compliance, better seats, and less interior noise. At the track the situation is reversed: The R has significantly more grip due to its tires, and stiffer suspension offers faster responses. The R seats which are confining in street use are supportive and grippy at track speeds.
Can't go wrong with either.
The differences between the R and the track pack 350 are incremental. On the street the non R is the car of choice - more feedback from the tires at street apeeds, more ride compliance, better seats, and less interior noise. At the track the situation is reversed: The R has significantly more grip due to its tires, and stiffer suspension offers faster responses. The R seats which are confining in street use are supportive and grippy at track speeds.
Can't go wrong with either.
06-08-2016, 01:14 PM
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If you can get an R at close to MRSP then it's worth it - as you stated it's an incremental price jump (maybe 6k over the Track Pack) - Carbon fiber wheels are the sole reason for that as they are $18,000 retail so the R is arguably better value than the Track Pack. Thing is nobody is selling them for less than 25k over.
06-08-2016, 01:26 PM
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Not sure about the ride comments since the GT350R has 45lb stiffer front springs and the same swaybars & rear spring rates. On the street, they both ride very similarly from a compliance standpoint with the main difference being the PSS vs MPSC2 tires.
06-08-2016, 03:20 PM
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