GT350
#3031
Nordschleife Master
Your “leap and bounds” is a couple seconds or so on most tracks and that’s with a 60 hp advantage and huge tire advantage and IRS and bigger brakes. That’s not leaps and bounds in my book especially with the “mulligans” aforementioned which are easily remedied. .
MT82 cheap remedies available. Not a big issue for DE car.
I dont recall any class action lawsuits over the Boss. GT350 yup. Oh wait, trans related? Yup.
Boss LS owners tend to be long term. GT350 owners not so much it seems.
If you guys think the Voodoo is the better drive train go for it. Lol. Even Ford bailed on it for WEC/Continental Challenge and went back to a Coyote Aluminator CPC drivetrain for the Mustang GT4.
Oh, the new GT500 won’t be Voodoo either. Good ol’ CPC V8 5.2. The GT350 will be yesterday’s news superseded by the next best S550.
The Boss was the best of the S197, ground breaking in many respects, limited production LS, epic performer for its time and still acquits itself great at the track, won multiple championships and has real Boss heritage and dna.
i agree with the post above. If you want a street car for track work and show &shine a ‘16 Z06 will take the Shelby’s lunch without breaking a sweat.
If you want a car primarily for track work my suggestion is above. Do track events long enough it’s only a matter of time before you get intimate with a tire wall or worse.
Try selling a GT350 with track damage and a car fax. Lol. Good luck with that!
#3032
Race Car
Dude are you seriously comparing the MT82 to the Tremec in the GT350? The MT82 was the biggest pile of junk - it's so bad that it nearly RUINED my entire Boss 302 LS experience during the 23,000 miles of use. It was constantly breaking on the track (mine and everyone else I know were on there 3rd or 4th rebuild). And remedies available???? on what planet! I waited nearly 3 MONTHS after one mild track session for parts - total garbage. No comparison, my GT350 Tremec was BULLETPROOF entire 19,000 miles of ownership.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
#3033
3160 FTW...
#3034
Race Car
Dude are you seriously comparing the MT82 to the Tremec in the GT350? The MT82 was the biggest pile of junk - it's so bad that it nearly RUINED my entire Boss 302 LS experience during the 23,000 miles of use. It was constantly breaking on the track (mine and everyone else I know were on there 3rd or 4th rebuild). And remedies available???? on what planet! I waited nearly 3 MONTHS after one mild track session for parts - total garbage. No comparison, my GT350 Tremec was BULLETPROOF entire 19,000 miles of ownership.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
Waxer I love your input to the board but I think you are kinda close minded with your LS versus GT350 stuff. To each his own.
I liken it to my 997 GT3 RS versus my old 991 GT3. Still have 997 RS but sold 991 3.
All of these are great cars for their era and each has different appeal to us enthusiasts and owners. Not always easy to decide which ones to keep and which to get rid of. If I had room I would keep em all
YMMV
Tal
#3035
Nordschleife Master
Dude are you seriously comparing the MT82 to the Tremec in the GT350? The MT82 was the biggest pile of junk - it's so bad that it nearly RUINED my entire Boss 302 LS experience during the 23,000 miles of use. It was constantly breaking on the track (mine and everyone else I know were on there 3rd or 4th rebuild). And remedies available???? on what planet! I waited nearly 3 MONTHS after one mild track session for parts - total garbage. No comparison, my GT350 Tremec was BULLETPROOF entire 19,000 miles of ownership.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
Oh and forgot to add when it WAS working - it COULDN'T even shift into a gear at high rpm!!! "Lockout" oh yah normal.
My LS shifts great. 0 issues.
Tremec is the better box and is used in the S and R. It’s in my Boss T1. Better race box for sure.
GT350 apparently has its own box issues with over heating etc..Big enough problem to warrant a class action. Don’t recall any class action suits involving the Boss. Did I miss that?
Cheers
#3038
#3039
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Do you even drive your "collectors car" on track? They shift fine with the mods, not stock, right up to the point the MT-82 trans or the clutch grenade and ruin your day. It's happened hundreds if not thousands of times but of course you're well aware of this.
You know that's not true on a GT350 track pack or GT350R. That's how Ford set it up the tech pack cars and not an issue with the trans or clutch. They fixed that in 2017 as you well know. You also know there was a class action lawsuit on the MT-82.
#3040
Nordschleife Master
Do you even drive your "collectors car" on track? They shift fine with the mods, not stock, right up to the point the MT-82 trans or the clutch grenade and ruin your day. It's happened hundreds if not thousands of times but of course you're well aware of this.
You know that's not true on a GT350 track pack or GT350R. That's how Ford set it up the tech pack cars and not an issue with the trans or clutch. They fixed that in 2017 as you well know. You also know there was a class action lawsuit on the MT-82.
You know that's not true on a GT350 track pack or GT350R. That's how Ford set it up the tech pack cars and not an issue with the trans or clutch. They fixed that in 2017 as you well know. You also know there was a class action lawsuit on the MT-82.
Where is the Ilnk to the MT82 class action suit? I can’t find it. With thousands of MT82 s exploding I need to know. Could be a safety issue. I never got my class action notice for either of my Bosses. Damn.
Fact is the % of MTs with issues was small in comparison to the number built. Both mine worked great.
Nah, I don’t track my LS. It’s too nice. I’ve got my Boss T1 which gets slowed down waiting for point bys from all those weekend GT350s.
I know now this is a fan boy thread but let’s stay with the facts at least a little instead of mostly make believe.
#3041
There's a few black LS's on Autotrader at $48K+. Ads have been online for two years. Suggest if anyone wants one to get 'em now before they're gone. Maybe they haven't moved because their transmissions are crrrrrrappppp...
#3042
Nordschleife Master
Actually while it may seem counter intuitive buying one of those 6 year old LSs with low mileage is the better move than picking a Voodoo GT among the sea still for sale at near the same price..write it down and let’s see who has the last laugh in a few years Fact... GT350 prices coming down steadily. Many owners selling after short time it seems. Ford not racing the fpc to my knowledge.
At least sporadic MT82 issues solved pretty easily with MGW and bushings.
So so far it’s the GT350 garnering the class action claim. The retort here is that it’s just the tech pack? Lol. Still waiting for the link to the Boss class action.
Cheers.
Last edited by Waxer; 01-14-2018 at 06:48 AM.
#3043
Yes it's just the MY2015-MY2016 base & tech pack versions... due to lack of trans & diff coolers (which Ford made standard across the board for MY2017-MY2018). This isn't new revelation.... so don't take it out of context and mislead readers.
Anyway back to regular programming... the Boss 302 is cool (I liked mine!) and all but an even more excellent pair would be to pair up a GT350 with a P-car. Period.
Amen.
Anyway back to regular programming... the Boss 302 is cool (I liked mine!) and all but an even more excellent pair would be to pair up a GT350 with a P-car. Period.
Amen.
#3044
Ouch! Lol.
Actually while it may seem counter intuitive buying one of those 6 year old LSs with low mileage is the better move than picking a Voodoo GT among the sea still for sale at near the same price..write it down and let’s see who has the last laugh in a few years Fact... GT350 prices coming down steadily. Many owners selling after short time it seems. Ford won’t race it on Sunday because it’s shaken itself to death by Monday.
At least sporadic MT82 issues solved pretty easily with MGW and bushings.
#3045
Nordschleife Master
Yes it's just the MY2015-MY2016 base & tech pack versions... due to lack of trans & diff coolers (which Ford made standard across the board for MY2017-MY2018). This isn't new revelation.... so don't take it out of context and mislead readers.
Anyway back to regular programming... the Boss 302 is cool (I liked mine!) and all but an even more excellent pair would be to pair up a GT350 with a P-car. Period.
Amen.
Anyway back to regular programming... the Boss 302 is cool (I liked mine!) and all but an even more excellent pair would be to pair up a GT350 with a P-car. Period.
Amen.