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08-07-2016, 08:43 PM
#1532
Back to back track times at the limit. No I haven't. Just driving them back to back doesn't cut it either.
So your saying the R can hit the mid 20s at the ring? We know kluck did a 7:25 in the GT 3. The Z28 never hit the 20s. So the R is that much faster at the Ring and it's all kept hush hush? Oey. Stop.
So your saying the R can hit the mid 20s at the ring? We know kluck did a 7:25 in the GT 3. The Z28 never hit the 20s. So the R is that much faster at the Ring and it's all kept hush hush? Oey. Stop.
Kluck's a great driver. Do you have a link to his in-car, sportauto, or whoever had him do it? (anything other than the erroneous Fastestlaps.com)?
I heard there was a lot of passing and actual 'racing'. Probably the best race of the year.
08-07-2016, 09:05 PM
#1533
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I don't know if Kluck had in car vid. Point is there is no reason not to accept or believe his recorded time.
I would believe that if an R had cracked below 7:30 we would have heard all about it. It can't so we won't. Simple as that.
The GT350 RC is doing well in class which is GS against Caymens and 997s. It is not running against 991Rs or RSRs in the faster classes.
I would believe that if an R had cracked below 7:30 we would have heard all about it. It can't so we won't. Simple as that.
The GT350 RC is doing well in class which is GS against Caymens and 997s. It is not running against 991Rs or RSRs in the faster classes.
08-07-2016, 09:13 PM
#1534
I don't know if Kluck had in car vid. Point is there is no reason not to accept or believe his recorded time.
I would believe that if an R had cracked below 7:30 we would have heard all about it. It can't so we won't. Simple as that.
The GT350 RC is doing well in class which is GS against Caymens and 997s. It is not running against 991Rs or RSRs in the faster classes.
I would believe that if an R had cracked below 7:30 we would have heard all about it. It can't so we won't. Simple as that.
The GT350 RC is doing well in class which is GS against Caymens and 997s. It is not running against 991Rs or RSRs in the faster classes.
-The GT350 never ran around Nurburgring with an R wing on it, so a "GT350R" never ran around Nurburgring.
-Ford never stated an official lap time, and they never have with all of the cars they've developed there (GT500, Focus RS, etc..)
-There are no more 997's in GS.
08-07-2016, 09:21 PM
#1535
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Empherical data please. On longer circuits no. It's 7 seconds behind the GT3 at the Ring. On shorter technical circuits I seriously doubt it. M3 GTS is faster and the GT3 is faster than the M. Case in point. Pobst did a 1:57 in the R at Chuckwalla. Patrick Long did a 1:57 at Chuckwalla in a vintage '69 911ST 2.5. Now imagine if he was working with a 991 GT3. Nuff said.
08-07-2016, 09:40 PM
#1536
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It was a great race til we ran out of gas...
You guys don't seem to understand how good the 350R really is. I have one and it's very good. Big *** tires and a ton of torque.
It has a lot more aero than you would think- mostly because of the chin spoiler. When you effectively block air from the underside of the car, the pressure difference really evacuates the underside of the car and sucks it to the ground.
Why is the 350R so good?
Torque.
Aero.
Tires.
Also- because of the wide track and lack of overhangs on the car it really handles well. You guys are focused a lot on weight (which is fine) but because of how the car is sprung (it has active dampers also) and how good the steering is (active steering mode selection- sport), the sum of the parts is a great package.
I'll be taking mine on track this fall once I get it all broken in and know for a fact that stock vs stock the difference between the 350R and a stock porsche will be more decided by driver vs driver than a lot of other cars.
In the same way that a GT4 is easier for novices to push at 8/10ths, and a GT3RS is a better car at 10/10ths than the GT3, the GT350R is a lot more car with very progressive handling at the limit than a lot of other cars and is easy to drive fast. It's balanced really well and like the ACR is just softly sprung enough that you really put down power from the rear axle without sliding around everywhere (like a 458).
You guys don't seem to understand how good the 350R really is. I have one and it's very good. Big *** tires and a ton of torque.
It has a lot more aero than you would think- mostly because of the chin spoiler. When you effectively block air from the underside of the car, the pressure difference really evacuates the underside of the car and sucks it to the ground.
Why is the 350R so good?
Torque.
Aero.
Tires.
Also- because of the wide track and lack of overhangs on the car it really handles well. You guys are focused a lot on weight (which is fine) but because of how the car is sprung (it has active dampers also) and how good the steering is (active steering mode selection- sport), the sum of the parts is a great package.
I'll be taking mine on track this fall once I get it all broken in and know for a fact that stock vs stock the difference between the 350R and a stock porsche will be more decided by driver vs driver than a lot of other cars.
In the same way that a GT4 is easier for novices to push at 8/10ths, and a GT3RS is a better car at 10/10ths than the GT3, the GT350R is a lot more car with very progressive handling at the limit than a lot of other cars and is easy to drive fast. It's balanced really well and like the ACR is just softly sprung enough that you really put down power from the rear axle without sliding around everywhere (like a 458).
08-07-2016, 11:01 PM
#1538
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08-08-2016, 12:29 AM
#1539
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No we are just allowed to run the stock setup which is 1.5" higher ride height than factory delivered to us. Which makes the car really floaty but super fun
08-08-2016, 07:00 AM
#1541
The non-stock Gurney Flap should help make up for that. The GT350RC was required to remove it's factory under aero and also runs smaller brakes than stock (rotor size and piston count).
08-08-2016, 09:51 AM
#1542
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It was a great race til we ran out of gas...
You guys don't seem to understand how good the 350R really is. I have one and it's very good. Big *** tires and a ton of torque.
It has a lot more aero than you would think- mostly because of the chin spoiler. When you effectively block air from the underside of the car, the pressure difference really evacuates the underside of the car and sucks it to the ground.
Why is the 350R so good?
Torque.
Aero.
Tires.
Also- because of the wide track and lack of overhangs on the car it really handles well. You guys are focused a lot on weight (which is fine) but because of how the car is sprung (it has active dampers also) and how good the steering is (active steering mode selection- sport), the sum of the parts is a great package.
I'll be taking mine on track this fall once I get it all broken in and know for a fact that stock vs stock the difference between the 350R and a stock porsche will be more decided by driver vs driver than a lot of other cars.
In the same way that a GT4 is easier for novices to push at 8/10ths, and a GT3RS is a better car at 10/10ths than the GT3, the GT350R is a lot more car with very progressive handling at the limit than a lot of other cars and is easy to drive fast. It's balanced really well and like the ACR is just softly sprung enough that you really put down power from the rear axle without sliding around everywhere (like a 458).
You guys don't seem to understand how good the 350R really is. I have one and it's very good. Big *** tires and a ton of torque.
It has a lot more aero than you would think- mostly because of the chin spoiler. When you effectively block air from the underside of the car, the pressure difference really evacuates the underside of the car and sucks it to the ground.
Why is the 350R so good?
Torque.
Aero.
Tires.
Also- because of the wide track and lack of overhangs on the car it really handles well. You guys are focused a lot on weight (which is fine) but because of how the car is sprung (it has active dampers also) and how good the steering is (active steering mode selection- sport), the sum of the parts is a great package.
I'll be taking mine on track this fall once I get it all broken in and know for a fact that stock vs stock the difference between the 350R and a stock porsche will be more decided by driver vs driver than a lot of other cars.
In the same way that a GT4 is easier for novices to push at 8/10ths, and a GT3RS is a better car at 10/10ths than the GT3, the GT350R is a lot more car with very progressive handling at the limit than a lot of other cars and is easy to drive fast. It's balanced really well and like the ACR is just softly sprung enough that you really put down power from the rear axle without sliding around everywhere (like a 458).
The R is a great package. Never said it wasn't. Same drive train as the TP though. Tires are the MAIN difference. Take those huge sport cup 2s away and your not much different than a tp gt350.
I would have liked to see a power difference between the R and the tp.
08-08-2016, 10:07 AM
#1543
If you get an R none of this matters. They're all bulletproof.
08-08-2016, 11:17 AM
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Is the chassis 1.5" higher, or is the suspension geometry 1.5" higher due to the smaller spec wheels? The non-stock Gurney Flap should help make up for that. The GT350RC was required to remove it's factory under aero and also runs smaller brakes than stock (rotor size and piston count).
But hey without rules it would be too insane so we just have to adjust right?