GT350
#2266
#2268
I just red all pages. It took me few days
Anyway I'm going to buy one. Do you think it's worth to pay 30k extra for R ?
Yes I'm track lover. Nordschleife few times every year plus other tracks and car trips. My daily is mostly M4 and also like to use this car on tracks + M3 CSL for this purpose. Regular GT350 with few mods will be ok for that or pay extra and get R ?
Give me some tips Guys !
Anyway I'm going to buy one. Do you think it's worth to pay 30k extra for R ?
Yes I'm track lover. Nordschleife few times every year plus other tracks and car trips. My daily is mostly M4 and also like to use this car on tracks + M3 CSL for this purpose. Regular GT350 with few mods will be ok for that or pay extra and get R ?
Give me some tips Guys !
#2269
Trucker
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^What would be your alternative to the R?
In Europe you will have even more fun running around in an R Mustang with the rubmbling V8. No doubt about it. So many of the modern cars are just so neutered on the "sensation" side of the business.
I have an R and it is really a great car for a Ford and a ton of fun. Would I have paid $30K over MSRP in the US probably not as a matter of principle. But would I have paid an additional $10K - $15K on the MSRP, probably yes...
In Europe you will have even more fun running around in an R Mustang with the rubmbling V8. No doubt about it. So many of the modern cars are just so neutered on the "sensation" side of the business.
I have an R and it is really a great car for a Ford and a ton of fun. Would I have paid $30K over MSRP in the US probably not as a matter of principle. But would I have paid an additional $10K - $15K on the MSRP, probably yes...
#2270
Thanks Igooz for an answer.
I believe it's a great car. The question is, is this R letter is really more sensational than regular 350 to pay right now 30k+ to get one. I have M3 E46 CSL and it's a whole different level of experience than normal M3. M3 it's not even close. M4 it's even worse
I don't have really alternative to this car. I was thinking to get Turbo S, or AMG GT-R but it's not the same league.
GT350 for M4.
I believe it's a great car. The question is, is this R letter is really more sensational than regular 350 to pay right now 30k+ to get one. I have M3 E46 CSL and it's a whole different level of experience than normal M3. M3 it's not even close. M4 it's even worse
I don't have really alternative to this car. I was thinking to get Turbo S, or AMG GT-R but it's not the same league.
GT350 for M4.
#2271
Trucker
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I am going to say that for the R you get the CF Wheels, more rubber, spoilers, and the coolers. From a day to day driving perspective, I don't think that you'll notice the difference.
There are better guys than me to answer your questions. I picked mine up a few months ago, but have only had 1-day to drive it and still under 200 miles.
GL
There are better guys than me to answer your questions. I picked mine up a few months ago, but have only had 1-day to drive it and still under 200 miles.
GL
#2272
The R is more rare and 'collectable'. It's also quite a bit of a difference in driver experience but maybe not as big as an M3 - M3 CSL. If you have the means, i'd go with the R.
#2273
Yeah it's obviously more collectable, but you can easily put more sticky rubber to GT350 and you achieve better times on track immediately.
Stuntman did you drive maybe both of them? I would like to hear someone who drove both and can compare.
Stuntman did you drive maybe both of them? I would like to hear someone who drove both and can compare.
#2274
Race Car
I just red all pages. It took me few days
Anyway I'm going to buy one. Do you think it's worth to pay 30k extra for R ?
Yes I'm track lover. Nordschleife few times every year plus other tracks and car trips. My daily is mostly M4 and also like to use this car on tracks + M3 CSL for this purpose. Regular GT350 with few mods will be ok for that or pay extra and get R ?
Give me some tips Guys !
Anyway I'm going to buy one. Do you think it's worth to pay 30k extra for R ?
Yes I'm track lover. Nordschleife few times every year plus other tracks and car trips. My daily is mostly M4 and also like to use this car on tracks + M3 CSL for this purpose. Regular GT350 with few mods will be ok for that or pay extra and get R ?
Give me some tips Guys !
If you can find an R for MSRP or even slightly over than it's a great bargain go for it otherwise I think a MSRP for a GT350 is a good choice.
#2275
Race Car
Exactly, most here seem to do that, the MPSS I found to be a fantastic street tire but on the track I found it to be not good match for the performance. R comps or better recommended.
#2276
Although I haven't driven an R anywhere near as much as a standard GT350 on the track, here are my observations of the differences.
The R benefits from the lighter wheels and different springs under braking and turn in; especially on rougher sections. It feels a bit more composed. It also feels a little bit less of a pickup truck (butt bounce), on the road. The slightly larger and stickier tires also grip noticeably better. They also wear out much quicker. If you're looking for the best lap time, the R is the one to buy.
The tires on the non-R are it's Achilles heel for good lap times. I feel they are the single biggest contributor to the difference in lap times between the two cars. They do however, allow the car to be immensely fun on the track. I do not use this car as an ultimate lap time car but more as a low cost fun machine. With the smaller, less grippy MPSS tires, it is just that. I can slide it to my hearts content and the tires accept it.
Both cars are well balanced and a lot of fun on the track. They do go through brakes very quickly though. I only get 6 to 7 sessions (not days), out of the front pads. I have a '17 non-R and it is my slowest car, but I still very much enjoy my time with it. It is the only car that makes me feel like a 17 year old when I drive it on the street.
The R benefits from the lighter wheels and different springs under braking and turn in; especially on rougher sections. It feels a bit more composed. It also feels a little bit less of a pickup truck (butt bounce), on the road. The slightly larger and stickier tires also grip noticeably better. They also wear out much quicker. If you're looking for the best lap time, the R is the one to buy.
The tires on the non-R are it's Achilles heel for good lap times. I feel they are the single biggest contributor to the difference in lap times between the two cars. They do however, allow the car to be immensely fun on the track. I do not use this car as an ultimate lap time car but more as a low cost fun machine. With the smaller, less grippy MPSS tires, it is just that. I can slide it to my hearts content and the tires accept it.
Both cars are well balanced and a lot of fun on the track. They do go through brakes very quickly though. I only get 6 to 7 sessions (not days), out of the front pads. I have a '17 non-R and it is my slowest car, but I still very much enjoy my time with it. It is the only car that makes me feel like a 17 year old when I drive it on the street.
#2277
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Anyone have any laptimes for a GT350 at Sebring?
Or a reference idea?
Got another ride in one and it's pretty awsome
Or a reference idea?
Got another ride in one and it's pretty awsome
#2278
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#2279
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#2280
Race Car
Yup - spoke to Ford Racing about that on the phone - they mentioned the stock brakes are great on the track but the weight will eat them up quick.
I've only done a couple track days in mine and I haven't pushed them to the limit yet , still on stock brakes with 14,000 miles. Do have a sweet set of G Loc pads bought from a Rennlister going to swap in for my next track day.
I've only done a couple track days in mine and I haven't pushed them to the limit yet , still on stock brakes with 14,000 miles. Do have a sweet set of G Loc pads bought from a Rennlister going to swap in for my next track day.