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Who was driving? Do they know how to use a 911? This has been an issue with C/D tests in the past, where journos who favor front-engine/rear-drive cars could not coax representative times from 911s — no matter how good they are, and a few were very good drivers.
If it's not Long, Pobst, van Overbeek, etc, I have to question those times...and wonder if they are representative for Porsche drivers.
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If it's not Long, Pobst, van Overbeek, etc, I have to question those times...and wonder if they are representative for Porsche drivers.
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as much as i love p cars. given equal driver, c6z06 will eat up 3.8RS like pop corns. add cooling and brakes.... the latest z06 doesn't blow up. i know of MANY 3.8 and even 4.0 blowing up (not many 4.0, but many 3.8). i would have bought a new c6z06 but the sales person didn't't speak my language and failed to get the papers ready in less than 1o mins after i got in the door so i left at 10min 15 seconds. my attention span is kind of short.
C6 ZO6 is a formidable machine. Wasn't impressed with many aspects of the early ones I drove, but I understand they are much better now. As for the new Vette, I think I'd be more interested in a C6 ZO6 if visuals count for anything. Can't deal with the Transformers rear end, and that's no good because I'll probably be seeing a lot of it.
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Not debating whether they're faster or more reliable, nor the issue of value. Just wanted to know who was driving for those times. Pobst times posted (thank you!) very useful. He can drive both/any, no question.
C6 ZO6 is a formidable machine. Wasn't impressed with many aspects of the early ones I drove, but I understand they are much better now. As for the new Vette, I think I'd be more interested in a C6 ZO6 if visuals count for anything. Can't deal with the Transformers rear end, and that's no good because I'll probably be seeing a lot of it.![surrender](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/surrender.gif)
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C6 ZO6 is a formidable machine. Wasn't impressed with many aspects of the early ones I drove, but I understand they are much better now. As for the new Vette, I think I'd be more interested in a C6 ZO6 if visuals count for anything. Can't deal with the Transformers rear end, and that's no good because I'll probably be seeing a lot of it.
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but i think i can drive slower, but i'll stick to porsche until chevy sales ppl learn to type better and speak clearer than i.
oh, driving feel.... porsche wins.
i was only talking about things blowing up and lap times.
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Yeah, but what about those thorax bolsters? Fatty's not gonna fit in them anyway. It looks like they used the same bottom cushion for the seat (no sub belt pass through and no thigh bolster) for both the regular and 'competition' seat. All they did was replace the back portion. It's only 1/2 a seat!
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as much as i love p cars. given equal driver, c6z06 will eat up 3.8RS like pop corns. add cooling and brakes.... the latest z06 doesn't blow up. i know of MANY 3.8 and even 4.0 blowing up (not many 4.0, but many 3.8). i would have bought a new c6z06 but the sales person didn't't speak my language and failed to get the papers ready in less than 1o mins after i got in the door so i left at 10min 15 seconds. my attention span is kind of short.
RS really only a roll bar is needed.
So go to Chevy dealer, pay $60-$70K and start tearing it apart and install all this stuff voiding any hope of warranty?
Yeah, I can barely stomach Porsche dealers and they at least pretend to try.
Driving feel you get used to and going fast is fun. But the value part? Mods will quickly put any Corvette over 100K and only 3 year warranty compared to 4 years Porsche or even better CPO, no mods like me and you keep all warranty.
The main problem is it's a Chevy with Chevy dealers, warranty and resale value. Yes they go very fast.
Looks like they poked 2 holes in the seat and called it a day, same bottom useless cushion that you cant take out at the track.
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I didn't get a day on the outer loop last year. Was running 1:36.xx east, 1:32.xx west. This was still a full street car with a 4 point roll bar. Past years with stock motor, springs, some Pfadt adjustable shocks and sways, I ran in the 2:07.xx. Next year there are 4 race weekends on the outer loop which is the best configuration there
hope to run around 1:56.xx
We have NASA nationals on the outer loop this year so I just had the full W2W cage finished up.
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We have NASA nationals on the outer loop this year so I just had the full W2W cage finished up.
1:56 is flying. Is your car an ST1 car or ST2? I'd like to make it to NASA championships this year, but it's 28 hrs driving, so, um....no. Unless I can find transport.
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$1500 each way and it takes a while...
if you can miss your car a week before and a week after it can be set up.
If you have the time probably easier and cheaper to just tow back and forth..
if you can miss your car a week before and a week after it can be set up.
If you have the time probably easier and cheaper to just tow back and forth..
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Outer Loop is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!