New Corvette...
01-21-2013, 09:44 AM
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Same thing I thought. Both upper and lower welds stuck out like a diseased, gangrenous, stinking thumb. Had I been that presenter I would have been too embarrassed and ashamed of that to even show it. Anyone know who manufactures that piece? Perfect example of "don't give a sh*t" quality is exactly why I've been unwilling to give any consideration to US nameplates for years (decades). Hoping against hope my countrymen find some renewed sense of craftsmanship and improve the quality and engineering of the new model car/trucks 
01-21-2013, 11:51 AM
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fixed. This is where my wine budget went ....
No seat belt warning chime like Porsche when you remove the seats. You just get an small airbag warning light on dash - no big deal
These oil tank are made by Walmart 
They don't bother me since they do their job well and I don't see them
Same thing I thought. Both upper and lower welds stuck out like a diseased, gangrenous, stinking thumb. Had I been that presenter I would have been too embarrassed and ashamed of that to even show it. Anyone know who manufactures that piece? Perfect example of "don't give a sh*t" quality is exactly why I've been unwilling to give any consideration to US nameplates for years (decades). Hoping against hope my countrymen find some renewed sense of craftsmanship and improve the quality and engineering of the new model car/trucks
They don't bother me since they do their job well and I don't see them
01-21-2013, 11:56 AM
#318
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LOL. Money well spent! 
I had this problem on another car of mine years ago. The solution was to put a resistor in the circuit that triggers the light. Maybe one of the vette guys figured this out...?
No seat belt warning chime like Porsche when you remove the seats. You just get an small airbag warning light on dash - no big deal
01-21-2013, 12:06 PM
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Yes, there are very inexpensive trick such as resisteor for the driver seat but once you remove the passenger seat then game over - too many electronic nanny to defeat. The little red airbag light on the dash really don't bother me ... looks kid of cool lol
01-21-2013, 12:11 PM
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Same thing I thought. Both upper and lower welds stuck out like a diseased, gangrenous, stinking thumb. Had I been that presenter I would have been too embarrassed and ashamed of that to even show it. Anyone know who manufactures that piece? Perfect example of "don't give a sh*t" quality is exactly why I've been unwilling to give any consideration to US nameplates for years (decades). Hoping against hope my countrymen find some renewed sense of craftsmanship and improve the quality and engineering of the new model car/trucks
Prices have held up very, very well, and a lot of the same guys who wrinkle their precious noses at the new Viper, the ZR-1, the C7, etc. are enamored with that car, and desirous to add one to their collection of (typically) European supercars.
If GM built a new super sports car - not badged Corvette, but had the ZR-1 motor, dramatic styling, and a bespoke interior - would it find an audience at $150k plus?
01-21-2013, 12:43 PM
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What do you think of the Ford GT?
Prices have held up very, very well, and a lot of the same guys who wrinkle their precious noses at the new Viper, the ZR-1, the C7, etc. are enamored with that car, and desirous to add one to their collection of (typically) European supercars.
If GM built a new super sports car - not badged Corvette, but had the ZR-1 motor, dramatic styling, and a bespoke interior - would it find an audience at $150k plus?
Prices have held up very, very well, and a lot of the same guys who wrinkle their precious noses at the new Viper, the ZR-1, the C7, etc. are enamored with that car, and desirous to add one to their collection of (typically) European supercars.
If GM built a new super sports car - not badged Corvette, but had the ZR-1 motor, dramatic styling, and a bespoke interior - would it find an audience at $150k plus?
I remain very interested in the new Vette. Let's see what actually rolls out the factory doors, but at this moment it seems to me to provide a heck of a value and great looks. Kudos to GM for the effort. If I wanted a daily driver sports car I'd give it really strong consideration over anything else out there right now. Heavy in it's current iteration though, would be hoping for a factory "track pack" to remove the frills.
Tough call on $150k+ GM car. Hard to imagine that finding an audience in the current economic climate. If they could build something special and find obscene profit margins like Porsche does, then they should give it a try.
01-21-2013, 03:23 PM
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01-21-2013, 03:24 PM
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you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
01-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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designed/engineered in less than 2 years -- how -- by over engineering every aspect of it
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
01-21-2013, 07:03 PM
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designed/engineered in less than 2 years -- how -- by over engineering every aspect of it
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
01-21-2013, 07:54 PM
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I think the CGT is in the same league... last manual big pow non hybrid non 911 car from Porsche. The 918 will sell out but I think it sucks by comparison - too much BS and too much $.
Along the same lines I think the GT2RS will hold pretty strong, as far as GT2's go, as it is certainly the last 911 that will entail the magic cocktail of the following 4 items -- manual trans, 2wd, non hybird, 600hp... limited numbers does not hurt... but if the 991 is the future of the 911 can you imagine what the next iteration will be like? 2 door panameras with 24s
The new modern super car is laden with hybrid this and electornic that and flappy paddle shifters and wifi hotspots etc... me thinks the last of the super cars with manual transmissions will continue to climb in value in the long run, at least as long as luddites like me long for them.
01-21-2013, 10:25 PM
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designed/engineered in less than 2 years -- how -- by over engineering every aspect of it
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
The car is a great build with proven drivetrain.
I have been looking for one for some time but the prices have been going up and not down!
Even the high mile drivers are holding!
Nothing exists under 125k and most are anywhere from 135k-200k.
Great investment.
Kills me I never got one when i had the chance at $125k for a white 19000 mile car.
01-21-2013, 11:14 PM
#329
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No opinion on Ford GT, never had a good look at one up close. My general perception is that it is a very special car.
I remain very interested in the new Vette. Let's see what actually rolls out the factory doors, but at this moment it seems to me to provide a heck of a value and great looks. Kudos to GM for the effort. If I wanted a daily driver sports car I'd give it really strong consideration over anything else out there right now. Heavy in it's current iteration though, would be hoping for a factory "track pack" to remove the frills.
Tough call on $150k+ GM car. Hard to imagine that finding an audience in the current economic climate. If they could build something special and find obscene profit margins like Porsche does, then they should give it a try.
I remain very interested in the new Vette. Let's see what actually rolls out the factory doors, but at this moment it seems to me to provide a heck of a value and great looks. Kudos to GM for the effort. If I wanted a daily driver sports car I'd give it really strong consideration over anything else out there right now. Heavy in it's current iteration though, would be hoping for a factory "track pack" to remove the frills.
Tough call on $150k+ GM car. Hard to imagine that finding an audience in the current economic climate. If they could build something special and find obscene profit margins like Porsche does, then they should give it a try.
designed/engineered in less than 2 years -- how -- by over engineering every aspect of it
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
you have all seen the adsurd aftermarket power they are running through the drivetrain with no issue
Ricardo gearbox in a ford street car -- simply put they needed something they knew would last without a lot of testing, so they went to "the best" and got the best.
this is a very special car for many reasons and top of the list for me is the fact that it is built like a tank.
If I had coin, I would tuck one of these away -- they are going no where but up...
over time the modded ones will slip as they get driven and beaten IMHO... but original all 4 option cars with low miles will continue marching right up in value.
I think the CGT is in the same league... last manual big pow non hybrid non 911 car from Porsche. The 918 will sell out but I think it sucks by comparison - too much BS and too much $.
Along the same lines I think the GT2RS will hold pretty strong, as far as GT2's go, as it is certainly the last 911 that will entail the magic cocktail of the following 4 items -- manual trans, 2wd, non hybird, 600hp... limited numbers does not hurt... but if the 991 is the future of the 911 can you imagine what the next iteration will be like? 2 door panameras with 24s
The new modern super car is laden with hybrid this and electornic that and flappy paddle shifters and wifi hotspots etc... me thinks the last of the super cars with manual transmissions will continue to climb in value in the long run, at least as long as luddites like me long for them.
I think the CGT is in the same league... last manual big pow non hybrid non 911 car from Porsche. The 918 will sell out but I think it sucks by comparison - too much BS and too much $.
Along the same lines I think the GT2RS will hold pretty strong, as far as GT2's go, as it is certainly the last 911 that will entail the magic cocktail of the following 4 items -- manual trans, 2wd, non hybird, 600hp... limited numbers does not hurt... but if the 991 is the future of the 911 can you imagine what the next iteration will be like? 2 door panameras with 24s
The new modern super car is laden with hybrid this and electornic that and flappy paddle shifters and wifi hotspots etc... me thinks the last of the super cars with manual transmissions will continue to climb in value in the long run, at least as long as luddites like me long for them.
Totally agree.
The car is a great build with proven drivetrain.
I have been looking for one for some time but the prices have been going up and not down!
Even the high mile drivers are holding!
Nothing exists under 125k and most are anywhere from 135k-200k.
Great investment.
Kills me I never got one when i had the chance at $125k for a white 19000 mile car.
The car is a great build with proven drivetrain.
I have been looking for one for some time but the prices have been going up and not down!
Even the high mile drivers are holding!
Nothing exists under 125k and most are anywhere from 135k-200k.
Great investment.
Kills me I never got one when i had the chance at $125k for a white 19000 mile car.
I think the inability to tempt enthusiasts of more premium European brands is the different philosophy with respect to refinement and quality - people who appreciate Ferrari, Porsche, etc. evidently place a premium on buying a "complete" car, about which there aren't any excuses made.
I don't think the Le Mans "heritage" of the GT (compare one side by side with a real GT40 and the new one is a bloated caricature, similar to 991 vs. 901) has helped its sales or current values - the car stands on its own, and it's a shame that GM can't / won't make something similar.
01-22-2013, 02:54 AM
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american cars have been POS for a good long time. but that is changing. some of the newer cadillac, GMC, chevy, camero, 'stang and the FGT are really incredible cars. as far as blowing up.... haha, bring me your car, there is NOTHING i cannot break. ask the ppl i track with, you be EXTREMELY surprised with my destructive power
not many things/cars are mooty proof, american or otherwise.
not many things/cars are mooty proof, american or otherwise.