Dyim

I have a PDK car and waiting to add the GT4. Part of the reason? Manual!

From what I have read so far, the manual in the GT4 is excellent. Can't wait.

Figured I'll throw in my 2 cents in this GT4RS thread turned manual vs PDK debate.

orthojoe

I agree with you wholeheartedly. The rise in DE attendance is starting to become scary. I see more and more 'close calls' and wrecks now than ever before. Too many fast cars and too many numbskulls putting themselves into 'advance' way before they are ready.

LOL, Thanks! I hope to meet you sometime as well!


This is very tempting. Keep an eye out for the DE schedule the week that I'm out there and let me know what options I have.

ExMB

Wouldn't you agree that these numbskulls can't put themselves there unless signed off for solo by some organization, promoted ahead of time by check out instructors, etc.

orthojoe

I wish that were the case. Around here many organizations let you self 'promote', although not officially. They are more interested in filling their run groups.

ExMB

Ouch. That is something I've never encountered in the regions I run. As an instructor I can make recommendations to the CDI. Sometimes the CDI wants to get a second opinion with the student either via another instructor or himself and sometimes he takes my word.

Mvez

true dat

BGB Motorsports

I do want to go on record in saying that the Getrag gearbox on the 981/987.2 platform is the single most reliable OE Porsche gearbox we ever encountered in street stock racing. The carbon lined syncros are robust, the trans can take serious abuse and it comes from a diesel Audi in Europe which satisfied all my torque limit concerns when it came time to decide whether or not it would last 24 hours. The 997 Aisin box was way better than the 996 Getrag box but this gearbox reigns supreme in my humble opinion. You can service it, put new parts in it and and run it til the cows come home.

hf1

Is this in the manual or PDK?

hf1

Except that, increasingly, older doesn't translate into more disposable in Porsche-world.

hf1

There's definitely something to it, but I think SP500 and QE (the "economy") have much more to do with it.

BGB Motorsports

Agreed. I knew if I don't mention the economy someone will say "it's not just PDK, it's the economy." I think we all realize that it smells like 2000 all over again.

I am talking about the manual gearbox used in the GT4. While I think the ZF PDK is reliable and while I'm certain we can lay claim to the longest running of a PDK in North America with our 6 hour finish at Sebring in January, I can only speculate that the PDK has close to that reliability but I'm am talking about the 6-spd Getrag manual in all 987.2s, 981s and GT4s and the one that will be on the upcoming GT4 race car that I can't even mumble about yet.

GTgears

2 pages later and not a single person noticed that I posted pictures of the prototype of our sequential gearbox, which as I alluded to in the post, buries the PDK vs manual debate deep deep under ground...

hf1

Yeah, quite a bunch of gear-heads over here.
Come on, stop teasing and start educating.

BGB Motorsports

You have to tell them they have options; 1.) Guard Transmission proprietary Cayman sequential; 2.) BGB Frankenbox with short ratio 1-2-3-4-5-6 with nothing other than Guard's short ratio GT4 gears for the masses!

And...begin!

matt@PorscheBC

GT4 RS - if it goes to production - I have build slot #3 available, and onward. We sell at MSRP. $2500 deposit locks your spot, additional $2500 required once we have a confirmed allocation for you.
We're a smaller dealer, but have Motorsport ties that help us get cars a dealer of our size would normally not. We received (allocations) seven GT4s and five GT3 RS. If the car is built, at spot #3, you would have a very good chance of getting one.
Call, text, email, or PM me if interested.