GAZZ

Here is my question:
So if the "thing above" becomes a cake I can eat, will I be able to eat my cake with a Celery stick or will I have to eat it with a paddle?
Cause you know you can eat it much faster with a paddle, but a Celery stick means you can enjoy it longer and have more fun!

usctrojanGT3

When will the car debut? Geneva 2019?

Whoopsy

There was a deviation from what I had learnt before as that was with assumption in there earlier.

Dr.Bill

Buy one now. Thank me later.

GAZZ

Ok, so the cake is not really a cake but a tossed salad.
You dont make friends with salad, do do make friends with beer.

user1029

'tossed salad' is not a term you just flippantly say in the reference to North American patois (google it)

(I'm currently drunk so I might regret this post the day after...)

superchargedman

KOTYKB

Oh yeah, you'll get lots of PM's about what dealers we're getting our cars at MSRP

Gatte

Snowman.

4nroots

Thanks Whoopsy:

4nroots

Gatte if you want to get a feel for a similar engine to the upcoming GT4, you should go test drive a 991.1 GTS or 991.1 Carrera S with Power Kit, just my opinion

JCviggen

Turn those around. Certainly no 992 in Paris.

jmartpr

Guess you need some clues......price point with GT3 engine will be same or very close to a GT3, Turbo engine wont fit and the GT3 engine can't stay dry-sump so making it fit drives cost up. Performance with turbo engine will probably get it ( or allow it) to GT3RS territory, performance with GT3 engine (if you could fit it and then detune it) would still be similar to GT3...which wont sit well with GT3 owners. The GT4 was designed as a gateway drug to other GT products...it offered a product to new customers and some old Porsche customers that wanted something in the GT4 (lower price point, manual, mid engine, etc). They needed a new step in their GT product lineup so people that couldn't reach now or was a tough decision for a GT3 could get a taste and get hook, that's how you build customer base. If you bump the product up the ladder then you end up loosing that market......which by the way I think PAG gained a lot of new Porsche customers with the GT4....you need to keep those in order to grow not cannibalize your current customer base. Of course this is IMO PAG way of thinking not mine...if it was me, hell yes....drop that GT3 engine in there!!!!!

blackholescion

So if I can summarize:

• 3.8 Stroked (Will get GT3 trans but not GT3 motor so that will help a bit with gearing).
  • Whoopsy had assumed it was the 4.0 from the GT3 in one of his posts and, when a member pointed out that it could be the 3.8 stroked to 4.0, said it is entirely possible it's the old lump stroked instead which aligns with his comment about there being an assumption in his original take
• 420/325-330 (bottom number subject to change, my bet is 325, same as outgoing .1 GT3)
• 7700 RPM, potentially 7900 RPM fuel cut. Stroking usually leads to lower red line so who knows
• no multilink to keep a gap
• Will probably turn a 7:25-7:28 lap officially to not step on toes. +12-15 from .2 GT3 and -12 to 15 from current GT4. Tires/aero/improved surface.
• Unveil as soon as Paris, 04OCT2018

Feel free to point out where I'm wrong.

for turbo vs N/A: for the last time, it's not turbo. One word: homologation.