What did you do with your cayenne today?
#256
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Put 10k miles on my Cayenne S in only 7 months of ownership so I just had my oil service done at a local indy shop. The electronic dipstick is reading below the max but above the min after the change and I am perfectly fine with that
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Installed the all-weather "winter" front floor mats. It means 5 months of cold, snow, salt and slush season has started...
I leave the all-weather mats installed in the second row year round.
I leave the all-weather mats installed in the second row year round.
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For what I see in several owner posts, if the dealer performing an oil service do not fill the oil to the normal correct full level, then owners will be forced to refill the oil before the next service oil, if they noticed they didn't fill their oil correctly..
If dealers state that it is normal and legal for an engine to burn 1 Qt. of oil per 1,000 miles, I can see many owners that are not savvy enough to check/add oil to have their engines damaged for a stupid half-*** oil service procedure..
That extra one or two quarts can make the difference between a damaged engine or not. Wonder how many new vehicles with high oil consumption.have already been damage by these half-*** dealer oil service jobs..
I will talk to my Porsche dealer manager and discuss this topic, since I never have seen any extended oil change interval vehicle (or even normal interval) to have the employees not follow standard engine oil fill guidelines to the full mark, since the guidelines/process even requires double checking the oil level.
The latter are grounds for a negligent lawsuit to any company dealer who increases the chances of a damaged engine by not filling to the correct levels..
Oil levels between high and low are ok between oil services, not for a just performed oil service, and even less, for a $1,100 oil service and charging you for more oil than what they actually added..
I guess Porsche will get pretty good money from its customers by replacing entire damaged engines, where the dealer did not add the correct amount of oil to the engine during oil services.
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Drove up to Toronto from DC. Made record time too (just over 7 hours). Highest MPG I've ever seen in the GTS on the trip; a whopping 20.8 MPG over ~460 miles
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Also discovered a nice utility for the night vision assist; really makes cops on the side of the road stand out from miles away. Quite useful.
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Also discovered a nice utility for the night vision assist; really makes cops on the side of the road stand out from miles away. Quite useful.
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Originally Posted by PorscheACC
I am not fine when the dealer charges me for 9 quarts of oil, and just puts around 7 quarts.
For what I see in several owner posts, if the dealer performing an oil service do not fill the oil to the normal correct full level, then owners will be forced to refill the oil before the next service oil, if they noticed they didn't fill their oil correctly..
If dealers state that it is normal and legal for an engine to burn 1 Qt. of oil per 1,000 miles, I can see many owners that are not savvy enough to check/add oil to have their engines damaged for a stupid half-*** oil service procedure..
That extra one or two quarts can make the difference between a damaged engine or not. Wonder how many new vehicles with high oil consumption.have already been damage by these half-*** dealer oil service jobs..
I will talk to my Porsche dealer manager and discuss this topic, since I never have seen any extended oil change interval vehicle (or even normal interval) to have the employees not follow standard engine oil fill guidelines to the full mark, since the guidelines/process even requires double checking the oil level.
The latter are grounds for a negligent lawsuit to any company dealer who increases the chances of a damaged engine by not filling to the correct levels..
Oil levels between high and low are ok between oil services, not for a just performed oil service, and even less, for a $1,100 oil service and charging you for more oil than what they actually added..
I guess Porsche will get pretty good money from its customers by replacing entire damaged engines, where the dealer did not add the correct amount of oil to the engine during oil services.
For what I see in several owner posts, if the dealer performing an oil service do not fill the oil to the normal correct full level, then owners will be forced to refill the oil before the next service oil, if they noticed they didn't fill their oil correctly..
If dealers state that it is normal and legal for an engine to burn 1 Qt. of oil per 1,000 miles, I can see many owners that are not savvy enough to check/add oil to have their engines damaged for a stupid half-*** oil service procedure..
That extra one or two quarts can make the difference between a damaged engine or not. Wonder how many new vehicles with high oil consumption.have already been damage by these half-*** dealer oil service jobs..
I will talk to my Porsche dealer manager and discuss this topic, since I never have seen any extended oil change interval vehicle (or even normal interval) to have the employees not follow standard engine oil fill guidelines to the full mark, since the guidelines/process even requires double checking the oil level.
The latter are grounds for a negligent lawsuit to any company dealer who increases the chances of a damaged engine by not filling to the correct levels..
Oil levels between high and low are ok between oil services, not for a just performed oil service, and even less, for a $1,100 oil service and charging you for more oil than what they actually added..
I guess Porsche will get pretty good money from its customers by replacing entire damaged engines, where the dealer did not add the correct amount of oil to the engine during oil services.
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Part came today. That definitely will not fit in there.
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One of the MB specialists told me a long time ago that removing excess oil is such a pain. They're just adding less than suggested and looking if the warning comes in. Sadly, my W222 was not informing you to add some oil. The only way to see that was constantly checking the oil level. I fortunately spotted that two days after the oil service, and they added oil for free. I was invoiced with the spec amount, stealers.
Shouldn't be that hard to remove some oil, though. Right?
Shouldn't be that hard to remove some oil, though. Right?
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One of the MB specialists told me a long time ago that removing excess oil is such a pain. They're just adding less than suggested and looking if the warning comes in. Sadly, my W222 was not informing you to add some oil. The only way to see that was constantly checking the oil level. I fortunately spotted that two days after the oil service, and they added oil for free. I was invoiced with the spec amount, stealers.
Shouldn't be that hard to remove some oil, though. Right?
Shouldn't be that hard to remove some oil, though. Right?
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I am not fine when the dealer charges me for 9 quarts of oil, and just puts around 7 quarts.
For what I see in several owner posts, if the dealer performing an oil service do not fill the oil to the normal correct full level, then owners will be forced to refill the oil before the next service oil, if they noticed they didn't fill their oil correctly..
If dealers state that it is normal and legal for an engine to burn 1 Qt. of oil per 1,000 miles, I can see many owners that are not savvy enough to check/add oil to have their engines damaged for a stupid half-*** oil service procedure..
That extra one or two quarts can make the difference between a damaged engine or not. Wonder how many new vehicles with high oil consumption.have already been damage by these half-*** dealer oil service jobs..
I will talk to my Porsche dealer manager and discuss this topic, since I never have seen any extended oil change interval vehicle (or even normal interval) to have the employees not follow standard engine oil fill guidelines to the full mark, since the guidelines/process even requires double checking the oil level.
The latter are grounds for a negligent lawsuit to any company dealer who increases the chances of a damaged engine by not filling to the correct levels..
Oil levels between high and low are ok between oil services, not for a just performed oil service, and even less, for a $1,100 oil service and charging you for more oil than what they actually added..
I guess Porsche will get pretty good money from its customers by replacing entire damaged engines, where the dealer did not add the correct amount of oil to the engine during oil services.
For what I see in several owner posts, if the dealer performing an oil service do not fill the oil to the normal correct full level, then owners will be forced to refill the oil before the next service oil, if they noticed they didn't fill their oil correctly..
If dealers state that it is normal and legal for an engine to burn 1 Qt. of oil per 1,000 miles, I can see many owners that are not savvy enough to check/add oil to have their engines damaged for a stupid half-*** oil service procedure..
That extra one or two quarts can make the difference between a damaged engine or not. Wonder how many new vehicles with high oil consumption.have already been damage by these half-*** dealer oil service jobs..
I will talk to my Porsche dealer manager and discuss this topic, since I never have seen any extended oil change interval vehicle (or even normal interval) to have the employees not follow standard engine oil fill guidelines to the full mark, since the guidelines/process even requires double checking the oil level.
The latter are grounds for a negligent lawsuit to any company dealer who increases the chances of a damaged engine by not filling to the correct levels..
Oil levels between high and low are ok between oil services, not for a just performed oil service, and even less, for a $1,100 oil service and charging you for more oil than what they actually added..
I guess Porsche will get pretty good money from its customers by replacing entire damaged engines, where the dealer did not add the correct amount of oil to the engine during oil services.
I am all for calling out poor or insufficient work but this is certainly not the case here. You pay the dealer for an oil service and when you get your car back the oil level is reading in the acceptable range...hard to argue there is any issue with that.
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Obviously I seem to be in the minority with my views on this topic, which I admit I find very strange. Yall are quibbling over a miniscule amount of oil when the car is still reading that the oil level is in the correct acceptable range. You really think there is some nefarious conspiracy at your Porsche dealer to screw oil change customers out of an extra $5 of oil? Come on...
I am all for calling out poor or insufficient work but this is certainly not the case here. You pay the dealer for an oil service and when you get your car back the oil level is reading in the acceptable range...hard to argue there is any issue with that.
I am all for calling out poor or insufficient work but this is certainly not the case here. You pay the dealer for an oil service and when you get your car back the oil level is reading in the acceptable range...hard to argue there is any issue with that.
Attached is the Porsche PIWIS TESTER II oil level procedure, which needs to be followed every oil service.
The PIWIS oil tester even tells you how much oil it needs to be added in order to reach the required full level, after the car has been warmed to the correct specs and the oil serviced. WM 170101..
It's a half-*** job to have a company not fill your oil to the full level after a professional oil service..
Hopefully, Porsche management is reading all these posts to avoid mediocre mechanics from performing bad oil service jobs to customer vehicles..
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A general observation….if I were CEO/COO of Porsche (highly unlikely) we would sell about half as many vehicles as they do today. There would be an interview process and reference checks. Anyone who has a pattern of behavior where the staff at the dealership on up the chain find them difficult or unreasonable would not be allowed to buy a car. Going nuts over a quart of oil is troublesome, posting about it frequently would be an instant third strike. Thats how I run my company and you’d be amazed how pleasant it is for all involved…
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A general observation….if I were CEO/COO of Porsche (highly unlikely) we would sell about half as many vehicles as they do today. There would be an interview process and reference checks. Anyone who has a pattern of behavior where the staff at the dealership on up the chain find them difficult or unreasonable would not be allowed to buy a car. Going nuts over a quart of oil is troublesome, posting about it frequently would be an instant third strike. Thats how I run my company and you’d be amazed how pleasant it is for all involved…
Many of today's Porsches are just daily drivers for those that select Porsche between Maserati, Lamborghinim, BMW, Audi, Land Rover, Mercedes, etc..
Companies that become mediocre in technology and customer service do not survive evolving times or just become a shrinking cult of old timers like me..
Fastest technologies and vehicles are EVs now.. period..
Even the new EV Tesla Cybertruck just beat a Porsche 911, while towing a Porsche 911, a day ago..
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Don't know why some people confuse normal oil level between services and required oil level fill after an oil service by professionals following required oil engine procedures..
Attached is the Porsche PIWIS TESTER II oil level procedure, which needs to be followed every oil service.
The PIWIS oil tester even tells you how much oil it needs to be added in order to reach the required full level, after the car has been warmed to the correct specs and the oil serviced. WM 170101..
It's a half-*** job to have a company not fill your oil to the full level after a professional oil service..
Hopefully, Porsche management is reading all these posts to avoid mediocre mechanics from performing bad oil service jobs to customer vehicles..
Attached is the Porsche PIWIS TESTER II oil level procedure, which needs to be followed every oil service.
The PIWIS oil tester even tells you how much oil it needs to be added in order to reach the required full level, after the car has been warmed to the correct specs and the oil serviced. WM 170101..
It's a half-*** job to have a company not fill your oil to the full level after a professional oil service..
Hopefully, Porsche management is reading all these posts to avoid mediocre mechanics from performing bad oil service jobs to customer vehicles..
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Did you buy the 2019-2023 listed part and try to fit it o your 2024 and it doesn't fit?
Just wanted to confirm because I was wondering if it's the right fit or not.
Since the floormat mostly fit, I figured they didn't change this either.
Just wanted to confirm because I was wondering if it's the right fit or not.
Since the floormat mostly fit, I figured they didn't change this either.