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Old 04-21-2021, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
This 997.2 GT3 just hit BaT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...che-911-gt3-6/
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Black, $132k MSRP, 32k miles.
Let's see where this goes.
Hope someone on here buys that one!
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
This 997.2 GT3 just hit BaT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...che-911-gt3-6/
WP0AC2A91BS783552
Black, $132k MSRP, 32k miles.
Let's see where this goes.
https://www.carsauto.com/2011-porsch...gt3-c-1107.htm

same car at least this guy put miles on it while he had it.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fmalgapo
Who are you guys saving your GT3's for?
I know this might blow some people's minds, but some of us have multiple "toy" cars. If you work during the week but enjoy driving on weekends, how many miles can you realistically rack up when you're rotating between several cars? Factor in family, kids sports, travel, and other hobbies, and perhaps now you can see that these cars are not being saved, it's just that their owners are also enjoying other aspects of life. Some of you guys make it sound like everyone who bought a GT3 had to stretch to make that happen, and if they aren't racking up what are, in your opinion, sufficient miles, then they must be making some sacrifice for the sake of intentionally keeping miles low. I would think the opposite is true. The low mileage cars are usually owned by people who need to make the fewest sacrifices, and are enjoying their other cars or hobbies.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
This 997.2 GT3 just hit BaT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...che-911-gt3-6/
WP0AC2A91BS783552
Black, $132k MSRP, 32k miles.
Let's see where this goes.
Well that escalated quickly.

Wasn't expecting it to be sitting at 100k within ~10 minutes of listing ...
Old 04-21-2021, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zshecht7792
I agree with hf1; 1-2k a year seems like a good number. That is roughly 80-170 a month. Take into account no driving for certain people that live in cold/snow states, Maybe that number is more like 300 a month (during the spring, summer and maybe fall seasons). That could be 3 or 4 solid drives a month. When you think about it deeper, that does not sound like a garage queen imo.
LOL. I can drive 100 miles in the AM.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by s65e90
LOL. I can drive 100 miles in the AM.
With no bathroom break? Impressive.
Old 04-21-2021, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenGT3
I know this might blow some people's minds, but some of us have multiple "toy" cars. If you work during the week but enjoy driving on weekends, how many miles can you realistically rack up when you're rotating between several cars? Factor in family, kids sports, travel, and other hobbies, and perhaps now you can see that these cars are not being saved, it's just that their owners are also enjoying other aspects of life. Some of you guys make it sound like everyone who bought a GT3 had to stretch to make that happen, and if they aren't racking up what are, in your opinion, sufficient miles, then they must be making some sacrifice for the sake of intentionally keeping miles low. I would think the opposite is true. The low mileage cars are usually owned by people who need to make the fewest sacrifices, and are enjoying their other cars or hobbies.
Interesting points. I do own / have owned multiple cars with the GT3 as well as motorcycle.
Cars are my primary hobby however.
I certainly am not "stretching" and didn't infer that in my post.
Old 04-21-2021, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenGT3
I know this might blow some people's minds, but some of us have multiple "toy" cars. If you work during the week but enjoy driving on weekends, how many miles can you realistically rack up when you're rotating between several cars? Factor in family, kids sports, travel, and other hobbies, and perhaps now you can see that these cars are not being saved, it's just that their owners are also enjoying other aspects of life. Some of you guys make it sound like everyone who bought a GT3 had to stretch to make that happen, and if they aren't racking up what are, in your opinion, sufficient miles, then they must be making some sacrifice for the sake of intentionally keeping miles low. I would think the opposite is true. The low mileage cars are usually owned by people who need to make the fewest sacrifices, and are enjoying their other cars or hobbies.

+1
Well said. Just rolled 16k on my 2010 GT3. Had an 1800 mi road trip a couple weeks ago, there were much better options in the garage for that duty even if less fun.
Old 04-21-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenGT3
I know this might blow some people's minds, but some of us have multiple "toy" cars. If you work during the week but enjoy driving on weekends, how many miles can you realistically rack up when you're rotating between several cars? Factor in family, kids sports, travel, and other hobbies, and perhaps now you can see that these cars are not being saved, it's just that their owners are also enjoying other aspects of life. Some of you guys make it sound like everyone who bought a GT3 had to stretch to make that happen, and if they aren't racking up what are, in your opinion, sufficient miles, then they must be making some sacrifice for the sake of intentionally keeping miles low. I would think the opposite is true. The low mileage cars are usually owned by people who need to make the fewest sacrifices, and are enjoying their other cars or hobbies.
I don't know if that's the general thought. I think people are just a little bummed when an amazing car isn't driven much. If someone only has time for 100 miles per month, then that's what it is. I'm sure those 100 miles are magical and that's what matters.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:30 PM
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GT3 miles driven will depend a lot on:
- How many other cars/toys/hobbies compete with it for your free time.
- How far one has to drive to get to nice back-roads. I am surrounded by hours of back-roads in every direction which makes even a 30min (30mile) squirt worthwhile. If I had to drive 100 miles each way to get to nice back-roads, then I'd have to make it a 300 mile day trip to make that worthwhile.

Also, the attributes that make a GT3/RS unique and attractive (aggressive, raw, loud, hard, etc.) don't necessarily make it the optimal tool for racking in miles, especially if stuck in traffic or on boring highways. You don't have to drink single malts scotch by the gallons in order to appreciate and enjoy it.

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Old 04-21-2021, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
GT3 miles driven will depend a lot on:
- How many other cars/toys/hobbies compete with it for your free time.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
There are currently 10 active want-to-buy ads in the RL marketplace for various versions of the 997 GT3. There is 1 listed for sale. Clearly, the supply/demand curve is favoring sellers at the moment and as long as that remains the case, prices will stay elevated or continue to rise. Keep in mind that we are dealing with an extremely small and illiquid market. If these 10 buyers find their cars, or move on to a different search, it will only take a handful of GT3s hitting the market to flip supply/demand and start driving prices back down. Will this happen? I don't think anyone knows for sure but I do think a significant reversal is very unlikely simply due to the fact that the supply side is static. There are only "X" number of clean 997 GT3s left. That number will never increase, it will only continue to decline as cars get used up, are damaged, or get locked away in private collections. So, having eliminated the chance of any material increase in supply (assuming the ratio of cars for sale remain proportional to cars in existence), we are left with only a drop in demand as the catalyst for a potential future decrease in prices. I'll let you guys speculate as to whether or not the 997 will become less desirable over time. If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on; NOT.
same thing happened with the 964 Turbo market a number of years back. There were only 580 sold during the 2 years they were produced for the North American market. The supply-side also became static, and buyers became very frustrated (most have given up & move on to other variants of the 911's). In my opinion, a very similar evolution will occur with the 997 GT3's. In response to your last statement - I agree with you, and believe it will always be "desirable". But potential buyers will eventually give up, and then the next wave will ensue.

I gotta compare though,... the intensity & liveliness of posts in this 997 GT for-sale thread is kinda what it used-to-be-like over in the 964Turbo sub-forums. Now the conversations & participants over there are so sparse. That may happen here too in about 10 years.
Old 04-21-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bweSteve
I gotta compare though,... the intensity & liveliness of posts in this 997 GT for-sale thread is kinda what it used-to-be-like over in the 964Turbo sub-forums. Now the conversations & participants over there are so sparse. That may happen here too in about 10 years.
What happened to 964 Turbo prices after the conversations died down and buyers moved on to other 911 variants?
Old 04-21-2021, 02:51 PM
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DAMN! that looks so exhilarating and dangerous!! You're a brave man!

Originally Posted by cgfen
so true

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Old 04-21-2021, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
What happened to 964 Turbo prices after the conversations died down and buyers moved on to other 911 variants?
was wondering the same....I would imagine, they move to newer gens.


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