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Says sold for $110k. So it sold. Otherwise it would say bid to $100k.
Unfortunately I think in most cases, you just don't get your money back on mods. Even very high quality mods. A SW3.9 is going to require a more specialized buyer than even a 997 GT3, which I think requires a certain buyer already.
I would have gone after this car had it been a different color and/or had PCCB. In any case does a 3.9 build require any more careful maintenance than a normal GT3 from Porsche? That was another question mark I would have looked in to had I been more serious. Also for the record the white SW3.9 that sold not long ago had front end paintwork which was shown with photos showing paint measurements. No such photos shown for this silver one, and I don't know that anyone got answers or even asked about it.
In the world of cars it's rare to get more money for mods unless you have an off roader/overland build. Though people with impeccable taste doing all the right things on the right cars do get some of it back, but yes it takes a smaller subset of people to recognize that.
I would have gone after this car had it been a different color and/or had PCCB. In any case does a 3.9 build require any more careful maintenance than a normal GT3 from Porsche? That was another question mark I would have looked in to had I been more serious. Also for the record the white SW3.9 that sold not long ago had front end paintwork which was shown with photos showing paint measurements. No such photos shown for this silver one, and I don't know that anyone got answers or even asked about it.
SW does make a few recommendations on the 3.9 for more regular maintenance than OEM -- namely oil changes every 5k miles and new spark plugs after each oil change. Seems to be a reasonable trade-off to keep it at peak performance. Otherwise same as stock.
I'm not sure about the paintwork on the white one -- wouldn't the meters be picking up the PPF that is on the front?
It's just the $trillions printed over the last year finding their way to the markets. Just take a look around. Everything luxury/discretionary that's not nailed to the ground is getting bid up.
and that means they desire the 991's more than the 997's???
...... that doesn't seem to address the 991's ramping so much more quickly than the 997 GT's
my guess is that they (991) are more first time Porsche buyers. Those that have been with the Marque longer are just,.... well,.... more seasoned.
Thanks guys. When I actually looked at the auction (which was minutes after it closed), it did not say "SOLD for...". just sayin'. I'm no BaT expert like a lot of you guys, but I can at least can read the top banner.
Could it be that there was indeed a reserve that was not met initially at the end of the auction, but then the seller agrees to sell it anyway? Does BaT allow negotiations after the gavel hits?
I also thought & agreed that $110k was indeed a good price to sell at. So my comment was directed mostly at RAudiD & his approach to pricing his car privately.
Also wanted to hear your collective Guru thoughts on why the 991.2 GT's (Touring for sure, but even the winged versions too) are hitting seriously high selling prices right now. Tourings are on a frenzy due to new 992 coming out. To me it doesn't look like that pricing frenzy is actually affecting the 997 GT market (or at least certainly not as much).
Is it just because the 991 GT3 sellers & buyers are a whole different breed than those of us who appreciate the older & more raw visceral experience?
I just notice that the new cup 2 n1's that are on that touring have the rim protection bead. WTF, I use to use that as a factor to get tires without the bead. N0 Cup2's no bead, regular Cup2's bead.
Looks like Isringhausen has this one listed again. Someone on here was interested back in November and was gonna have a PPI done. Not sure whatever happened.
and that means they desire the 991's more than the 997's???
...... that doesn't seem to address the 991's ramping so much more quickly than the 997 GT's
my guess is that they (991) are more first time Porsche buyers. Those that have been with the Marque longer are just,.... well,.... more seasoned.
Haven't been following the 991's but the 997's seem to have ramped up pretty nicely, especially the RS's. What increases have you seen in the 991's vs the 997's?
That said, when an inflation driven buying hysteria starts, relative valuations become more chaotic and unpredictable. Things start to lose rhyme or reason.
Haven't been following the 991's but the 997's seem to have ramped up pretty nicely, especially the RS's. What increases have you seen in the 991's vs the 997's?
That said, when an inflation driven buying hysteria starts, relative valuations become more chaotic and unpredictable. Things start to lose rhyme or reason.
991.2s have all gone up in the last few months. But, the last 30 days has been ridiculous. Cars lists at 165 are now 190. Cars listed at 190 are now 240. It's dealers cashing in on hysteria and new model build slots. People are paying 30-50 over sticker on two year old cars. Sucks for the rest of us without 7 figures in F-U money, lol.
Looks like Isringhausen has this one listed again. Someone on here was interested back in November and was gonna have a PPI done. Not sure whatever happened.
So what happened with the guy that was buying it and how did it end up back there? I spoke to Joe Isringhausen about upcoming RS's for sale a month ago and he knew of nothing being available. Deals don't unwind too often. Anybody seen the Carfax?
EDIT: Previous member did not buy because of paintwork to the driver's rear quarter panel. Car was sold to another person who then sold it back. Weird.
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^ call them to find out.
sometimes its just selling back and forth. I do it often, sometimes I sell it to a dealer and buy it back b4 the transport hit their lot lol
I just sold a car back to a re-seller that he sold me 2 months ago.
991.2s have all gone up in the last few months. But, the last 30 days has been ridiculous. Cars lists at 165 are now 190. Cars listed at 190 are now 240. It's dealers cashing in on hysteria and new model build slots. People are paying 30-50 over sticker on two year old cars. Sucks for the rest of us without 7 figures in F-U money, lol.
Thanks Burren. Yea I've seen your posts over in the 991 GT's for sale thread too. Well described here ^^^ too. That's why I posted that BaT link in my post # 6899 above - read the comments section. Hysteria is a good description.
I agree sucks for folks who just recently moved into a buy mode.
^ call them to find out.
sometimes its just selling back and forth. I do it often, sometimes I sell it to a dealer and buy it back b4 the transport hit their lot lol
I just sold a car back to a re-seller that he sold me 2 months ago.
I'd tend to agree - that, or they're new to the GT market (and want/think newer = better)
also the 997’s are 15ish years old now, 991 can be more easily financed and only 5 yrs old. The reality is most people just want a more modern car with modern convinces like Apple car play. In reality aren’t the 991’s better cars in every measurable way in comparison (not more raw or visceral but in stat to stat? I get you guys like your old cars but not everyone wants to drive a car from before the last economic crash. Also one thing that really bugs me about the 997 (sorry owners) is the steering wheel is so GD ugly, makes the whole car feel dated.
also the 997’s are 15ish years old now, 991 can be more easily financed and only 5 yrs old. The reality is most people just want a more modern car with modern convinces like Apple car play. In reality aren’t the 991’s better cars in every measurable way in comparison (not more raw or visceral but in stat to stat? I get you guys like your old cars but not everyone wants to drive a car from before the last economic crash. Also one thing that really bugs me about the 997 (sorry owners) is the steering wheel is so GD ugly, makes the whole car feel dated.
but the 997's steering has SUCH a better feeling (it's a frigging scalpel), the looks are totally subjective (I think the 991s steering wheel is ugly AF...), as for Apple car play - don't care
and when you add in the over all size, quantity built and those engines that go boom...
of course the 991s are faster, hell, I'm pretty sure the 991 C2s are faster. hey, we're all faster than a '73 RS, but which is more collectable (numbers don't lie)?
anyway, hope this doesn't get into a pissing contest. can't remember the last car I financed either...
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