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Aware of the current GT3's listed for sale... however just wondering if anyone on here/reading this has any 997 GT3's they would like to sell? Prefer Speed Yellow , but I'm open to other colors.

Thanks.

golfnutintib

good to know my 1gt3's and 7gt3's going to be pretty much worthless soon... better just drive em into the ground and then throw 'em in the dumpster then

CosmosMpower

delete

Spyerx

I'm well ahead of most of you.

mooty

IF 991.2GT3 is stick shift
AND IF 991.2RS is pdks
2.rs will still hold value better than .2GT3.
i am not arguing which is the better car. i am arguing that the "RS" letter is magic.
if your related to kennedy, you will get into harvard.
just that name is enough.
"RS" letter does that.
price and collectability is in the NAME not the substance.
look at watches, really high high end clothing/purse/leathergoods, alcohol, cigar....
let's not lie to ourselves.

hf1

Yes, in terms of 'collecting' or just watching and polishing them. In terms of $ per GT miles driven/enjoyed, a nicely set up gt3 is practically indistinguishable from an RS and probably the better $ proposition from the point of purchase to point of sale, including appreciation/depreciation -- not even accounting for the smaller capital outlay upfront and the smaller carry costs (insurance, risk of crash). So, from this aspect, a gt3 is better for driving (like a car), and an RS is better for looking at it or 'investing' (like a Birkin bag).

ilko

The 997-2 RS offers a significant performance improvement - the gearing, suspension, wider track, and a few extra ponies all make a difference. The gearing especially!

Now is it worth the extra money? That's subjective. To me it was.

hf1

I said "a nicely set up gt3". A gt3 could easily be made equal to or superior to a stock RS for far less $ than the market price difference. The extra HP are irrelevant to almost any driver good enough to extract more than 80% of what these cars can offer, especially in terms of enjoyment, if not in terms of sheer speed/lap-times.

ilko

I'm sorry but I don't see the logic in that. A gearbox will run you $10-15K, another $10K in suspension, wider track, aero, a little bit of engine work and you're within striking distance of an RS. So what's the point? Especially that when its time to sell you won't recoup any of that money and the upgrades will only likely put off most buyers.

hf1

Changing the gears and upgrading the suspension costs far less than those amounts. Wide-track and aero are irrelevant. No need for engine work. Anything over 300hp is already an overkill for public roads. Let C Harris earn his daily bread by telling you otherwise. At the point of sale, car could be brought to OEM and the parts sold separately.

As Mooty said, most of the RS cachet is in the letters.

ilko

LOL I don't need anyone telling me, I've owned both

hf1

I've driven both, too. You asked to see my logic. I tried to show it to you. No intention of telling/selling you anything. Different strokes...

Jrtaylor9

Assuming the upfront capital outlay is not an issue, an RS is not going to be more expensive all-in, in most cases. The money spent on mods for a gt3 to get it on par with RS have negative value in the end. Beating the hell out of both is going to tear down the value. Consumable differences are going to be negligible. Insurance will be a little higher. Resale of a tracked RS still going to hold better than resale of gt3. I think it's a wash in the end. So, get what you like.

Parking them in a garage or as Sunday drive car, no question RS is best value to hold (again, assuming up front capital outlay is not a constraint).

rennlistdavid

This is the most important thread of my life at the moment. Thank you for starting it and thank you for keeping it going. Subscribed! Reading entire thing in earnest.

hf1

Losing 20% for driving 30k miles is twice as many $'s on a $200k car vs a $100k car. Same for 'stated value' track insurance.

RS too could benefit from mods and in both cases parts can be sold separately to recoup some of their cost.