The 997 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
#602
I do believe that the GT4 did actually have something to do with the decrease of 997 GT (not RS!) values. They've dropped down 10-15% from a year ago. And in my view a lot of it had to do with the broad availability of the GT4. Similar performance from a brand new car with a warranty. At a similar price point.
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IF 991.2GT3 is stick shift
AND IF 991.2RS is pdks
2.rs will still hold value better than .2GT3.
i am not arguing which is the better car. i am arguing that the "RS" letter is magic.
if your related to kennedy, you will get into harvard.
just that name is enough.
"RS" letter does that.
price and collectability is in the NAME not the substance.
look at watches, really high high end clothing/purse/leathergoods, alcohol, cigar....
let's not lie to ourselves.
AND IF 991.2RS is pdks
2.rs will still hold value better than .2GT3.
i am not arguing which is the better car. i am arguing that the "RS" letter is magic.
if your related to kennedy, you will get into harvard.
just that name is enough.
"RS" letter does that.
price and collectability is in the NAME not the substance.
look at watches, really high high end clothing/purse/leathergoods, alcohol, cigar....
let's not lie to ourselves.
#606
Yes, in terms of 'collecting' or just watching and polishing them. In terms of $ per GT miles driven/enjoyed, a nicely set up gt3 is practically indistinguishable from an RS and probably the better $ proposition from the point of purchase to point of sale, including appreciation/depreciation -- not even accounting for the smaller capital outlay upfront and the smaller carry costs (insurance, risk of crash). So, from this aspect, a gt3 is better for driving (like a car), and an RS is better for looking at it or 'investing' (like a Birkin bag).
#607
The 997-2 RS offers a significant performance improvement - the gearing, suspension, wider track, and a few extra ponies all make a difference. The gearing especially!
Now is it worth the extra money? That's subjective. To me it was.
Now is it worth the extra money? That's subjective. To me it was.
#608
I said "a nicely set up gt3". A gt3 could easily be made equal to or superior to a stock RS for far less $ than the market price difference. The extra HP are irrelevant to almost any driver good enough to extract more than 80% of what these cars can offer, especially in terms of enjoyment, if not in terms of sheer speed/lap-times.
#609
I'm sorry but I don't see the logic in that. A gearbox will run you $10-15K, another $10K in suspension, wider track, aero, a little bit of engine work and you're within striking distance of an RS. So what's the point? Especially that when its time to sell you won't recoup any of that money and the upgrades will only likely put off most buyers.
#610
I'm sorry but I don't see the logic in that. A gearbox will run you $10-15K, another $10K in suspension, wider track, aero, a little bit of engine work and you're within striking distance of an RS. So what's the point? Especially that when its time to sell you won't recoup any of that money and the upgrades will only likely put off most buyers.
As Mooty said, most of the RS cachet is in the letters.
#613
Assuming the upfront capital outlay is not an issue, an RS is not going to be more expensive all-in, in most cases. The money spent on mods for a gt3 to get it on par with RS have negative value in the end. Beating the hell out of both is going to tear down the value. Consumable differences are going to be negligible. Insurance will be a little higher. Resale of a tracked RS still going to hold better than resale of gt3. I think it's a wash in the end. So, get what you like.
Parking them in a garage or as Sunday drive car, no question RS is best value to hold (again, assuming up front capital outlay is not a constraint).
Parking them in a garage or as Sunday drive car, no question RS is best value to hold (again, assuming up front capital outlay is not a constraint).
#615
Assuming the upfront capital outlay is not an issue, an RS is not going to be more expensive all-in, in most cases. The money spent on mods for a gt3 to get it on par with RS have negative value in the end. Beating the hell out of both is going to tear down the value. Consumable differences are going to be negligible. Insurance will be a little higher. Resale of a tracked RS still going to hold better than resale of gt3. I think it's a wash in the end. So, get what you like.
Parking them in a garage or as Sunday drive car, no question RS is best value to hold (again, assuming up front capital outlay is not a constraint).
Parking them in a garage or as Sunday drive car, no question RS is best value to hold (again, assuming up front capital outlay is not a constraint).
RS too could benefit from mods and in both cases parts can be sold separately to recoup some of their cost.