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Old 12-28-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
$142,250, reserve not met. Really surprised it even went that high, although I'm sure the DME at the end helped. $187,500 buy it now.
it’s a sub 5k mile car with what appears to be limited to no track time. There are some cosmetic issues and it was poorly presented but it’s probably worth more than $150k, given comparable sales of worn out examples well above that number.
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Old 12-28-2023, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lawrence1
it’s a sub 5k mile car with what appears to be limited to no track time. There are some cosmetic issues and it was poorly presented but it’s probably worth more than $150k, given comparable sales of worn out examples well above that number.
The underside implies rode hard and put up wet. I have to assume the seats are from a much higher mileage car. Didn't they mention a respray of the hood? I assume Sub-5k track rat miles.

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Old 12-28-2023, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GM.RS
They posted one finally, All 0's but implies 23.6 avg MPH. Does that seem low? (195.6 hrs, 4,602 miles). IIRC most DMEs imply 35-ish MPH given highways and backroads. 23.6 implies a lot of very slow driving?
Typical average speed for a babied street mileage garage queen. Most have an average speed in the 30 MPH range with some highway miles. I would expect a track rat to be up towards 50 MPH. Babied garage queen with mostly street miles would be less than 30 MPH. When I bought my car it had an average speed of 25 MPH. There is a 1,819-mile pumpkin .1 RS for sale that has an average speed of just under 12 MPH. Probably the lowest I’ve ever seen. Normally I would be suspicious that the DME has been tampered with, but maybe the owner babied the crap out of it or they left the car sitting idle a ton since it wasn’t being driven. Though it looks like they triggered some range 1 and 2 ignitions pretty early on.

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Old 12-28-2023, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
$142,250, reserve not met. Really surprised it even went that high, although I'm sure the DME at the end helped. $187,500 buy it now.
I bid on the car. Was really looking for a driver but was hoping to get lucky with a lower price. The car is still on consignment. Agree that the mileage/condition is a little suspicious with the extra wear on the seats and peppered hood.
Old 12-28-2023, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger22
The underside implies rode hard and put up wet. I have to assume the seats are from a much higher mileage car. Didn't they mention a respray of the hood? I assume Sub-5k track rat miles.
If that DME is original to the car and hasn't been tampered with, I'm guessing there is minimal to no track time. I think the car needs to be inspected in person for an accurate assessment. Unless I misread the comments, the front bumper was repainted, not the hood.

All in all, some of the cosmetic issues seem a bit exaggerated. Sure, there is some wrinkling on the bolsters and scratches on the console. neither are a big deal. There is some wear on the steering wheel, likely from someone wearing jewelry, also an easy fix in the grand scheme of things. The rest of the interior looks fairly minty (at a quick glance). The tail lights need to go and it needs a good detail. None of these are major concerns, at least not to me.

So if that's the original mileage, and it's running the original DME, this thing is a unicorn at this point. How many other sub 5k mile examples are out there that you can buy for less than $200K? Not saying it's worth $187K or whatever but it's likely worth more than the high bid, even with the market on these softening.
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Old 12-28-2023, 10:54 PM
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I would anticipated about 170 on this one. Wonder if it'll go through in the deal tank...
Old 12-28-2023, 11:17 PM
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I’ll be the conspiracy theorist that says that it would take me about 3 hours to swap the ECU and re-program my spec with the PIWIS Ofc my key may not work anymore so I’d have to reprogram that also… sounds annoying, the car is prob fine

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Old 12-29-2023, 01:00 AM
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This is a great car. Someone will get an amazing deal on this one.

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Old 12-29-2023, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lawrence1
it’s a sub 5k mile car with what appears to be limited to no track time. There are some cosmetic issues and it was poorly presented but it’s probably worth more than $150k, given comparable sales of worn out examples well above that number.
Certainly worth more than $150k, but as you mentioned it's the presentation that held it back. As we know, Porsche guys require the most amount of documentation and information of almost any car buyer out there. Paint meter readings, DME, service records, tons of pics. I'm calling myself out here, I'm the same as I know that when entering the market you have to play these games to not get burned if you ever decide to sell one day. I'd rather take a higher mileage example that either has wear that is associated with the miles or even better, a 5k mile example that was properly represented.

The thing that stood out the most to me was pic 31, tons of scratches on the center console. Now, when I got my 22k mile car, it had some scratches in this area, it's a soft touch material, but I would have told the seller to consider replacing that on such a low mileage car. Now, I understand that spending money on that and a new front lip may not be worthwhile, so at a minimum, maybe removing the taillight tint? Also, I'm a fan of carbon fiber, especially on black it works well, but I think the GT3 smile vent, mirrors and wing in carbon on such a low mileage car may not be the best for the secondary market. People are expecting a time capsule.

I think with proper documentation (DME) upfront and on a site like BAT, I think this car could have brought more. Just not the best effort to get this to where it should have been.
Old 12-29-2023, 10:58 AM
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Someone with access to dry ice and some detailing skills could make a quick 20k off that car.
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Old 12-29-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jreifler
Someone with access to dry ice and some detailing skills could make a quick 20k off that car.
Even the carbon fiber side view mirror cover had scratches. I didn't understand the underside pictures of the engine and suspension. Compare it to other cars with 30-40k that have NOT been detailed underneath. And the Carfax had an ownership period with almost no miles and no service. Something stinks. And why would somebody swap seats? The driver's seat upper bolster had wear on BOTH sides. The passenger side looked like an overweight person lived there. Outside of the odometer, anybody would have guessed this was a minimum 40k mile car. No bueno.
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Old 12-31-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
$142,250, reserve not met. Really surprised it even went that high, although I'm sure the DME at the end helped. $187,500 buy it now.
Color def held it back, does no justice on these cars.
Old 01-01-2024, 07:48 AM
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Happy new years everybody!

Doug is getting in a 33k-mile white .1 RS. I believe this is VIN WP0AC29917S793137.



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Old 01-01-2024, 11:30 AM
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Happy New Year to all my fellow GT3 addicts. Wishing you and your families health and happiness.
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Old 01-01-2024, 11:55 AM
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