my gt3 STOLEN: UPDATE FOUND TORCHED
#316
guys, you make this way too complicated.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.
#317
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my kids are much more advanced than i was.
i have trained mia many things.
lately she's been hunting moles for me. she has a little shovel/dagger, i told her if it moves, jab on it until she sees blood....
some kids at school really bother her. jab her with their fingers. i told her, next time they do it, kick them in the *****. then call daddy.
dont mess with her.
oh, she's very good with max. max crawls very fast so i need mia to help control max so i can get work done.... she just sits on him like sitting on a horse. if max wont stop crying, mia picks him up, and run his head into a wall.... oh, got to go now. i just hurt head banging against wall....
i have trained mia many things.
lately she's been hunting moles for me. she has a little shovel/dagger, i told her if it moves, jab on it until she sees blood....
some kids at school really bother her. jab her with their fingers. i told her, next time they do it, kick them in the *****. then call daddy.
dont mess with her.
oh, she's very good with max. max crawls very fast so i need mia to help control max so i can get work done.... she just sits on him like sitting on a horse. if max wont stop crying, mia picks him up, and run his head into a wall.... oh, got to go now. i just hurt head banging against wall....
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#319
Again , just so it's clear, it is fabulous that the OP can put this behind him as someone else committed these crimes.
Last edited by 911dev; 09-01-2009 at 08:53 AM.
#320
How easy is it? How was it done? Is there a way to further prevent someone just jumping in one of our cars and driving it away in such a short timeframe?
Can you provide more details from what the detectives found out from this thief?
Thanks,
Deanski
#321
I would file a complaint if I didn't get an apology in a timely manner.
Glad to hear they caught the thief and your name is cleared.
Sorry for your GT3.
#322
After the arrest of the dips%&t who has previous convictions for ARSON and is wanted in another state, I am AMAZED that there is still talk that the OP may have been involved.
So I present the following as a possible method for stealing the car WITHOUT the owner's consent.
A little background...Suncoast Porsche sells a replacement key head conversion kit. Basically a 996>>997 key conversion. If you look at the attached install guide, you will see the inside of a modern Porsche key. The black arrow in Figure 2 and Figure 4 point to the transponder 'pill'. This pill is part of the immobilizer system and is an electrical transponder contained in a glass pill. The transponder contains a code that is also programmed into the car's ECU at the factory. When the key is inserted in the ignition the transponder "magnetically couples" to the car and communicates its code. This code has to match the code programmed into the ECU. If it matches the car starts.
Now to the crime.....OP valets the car. The valet removes the transponder pill from the owner's key and sticks it in the car near the ignition key slot so that the owner's key will work normally. He also makes an immpression of the original key and then has a copy of the key cut. This new key will work because a working transponder pill is already in the car.
He gives the duplicate key to a dip**** colaborater, who simply drives off in car in 'less than 60 seconds'. Dip**** gets paranoid or scared when every other car at 3:30 AM has rollers and he is driving the only yellow Porsche in Clark County so he drives to desert and burns car.
At least its plausible.
So I present the following as a possible method for stealing the car WITHOUT the owner's consent.
A little background...Suncoast Porsche sells a replacement key head conversion kit. Basically a 996>>997 key conversion. If you look at the attached install guide, you will see the inside of a modern Porsche key. The black arrow in Figure 2 and Figure 4 point to the transponder 'pill'. This pill is part of the immobilizer system and is an electrical transponder contained in a glass pill. The transponder contains a code that is also programmed into the car's ECU at the factory. When the key is inserted in the ignition the transponder "magnetically couples" to the car and communicates its code. This code has to match the code programmed into the ECU. If it matches the car starts.
Now to the crime.....OP valets the car. The valet removes the transponder pill from the owner's key and sticks it in the car near the ignition key slot so that the owner's key will work normally. He also makes an immpression of the original key and then has a copy of the key cut. This new key will work because a working transponder pill is already in the car.
He gives the duplicate key to a dip**** colaborater, who simply drives off in car in 'less than 60 seconds'. Dip**** gets paranoid or scared when every other car at 3:30 AM has rollers and he is driving the only yellow Porsche in Clark County so he drives to desert and burns car.
At least its plausible.
#323
if you can scan a key remotely with a laptop or other scanning device, all one would need to do is park near the elevator in a parking garage. you could be sitting in the back on a van. when someone parks a GT3 and walks past your van and while waiting for the elevator, you use your laptop or scanning device to scan the key in their pocket. by the time they get on the elevator, you have their codes.
#324
if you can scan a key remotely with a laptop or other scanning device, all one would need to do is park near the elevator in a parking garage. you could be sitting in the back on a van. when someone parks a GT3 and walks past your van and while waiting for the elevator, you use your laptop or scanning device to scan the key in their pocket. by the time they get on the elevator, you have their codes.
#326
Police are taught that while investigating a crime, it's proper procedure to lie to the victim? Either this is true, or these officers weren't doing their job properly.
I would file a complaint if I didn't get an apology in a timely manner.
Glad to hear they caught the thief and your name is cleared.
Sorry for your GT3.
I would file a complaint if I didn't get an apology in a timely manner.
Glad to hear they caught the thief and your name is cleared.
Sorry for your GT3.
#327
Not possible. To scan a key immoblizer would require being within an inch or closer of the key for awhile. Sure you can RF scan 'all day' for unlock codes from key FOBs but you are not receiving anything from the immobilizer. You really need to have access to the key the way a valet might...hmmm.
So, the REAL security reason for the little black plastic valet key MIGHT be so that the valet can not steal your mag pill from your key FOB.
The only explanation I've ever been given by the dealer at delivery for the black plastic valet key is that it will not allow the valet to unlock the glove box!
WTF.
#329
guys, you make this way too complicated.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.
#330