my gt3 STOLEN: UPDATE FOUND TORCHED
08-29-2009, 05:45 AM
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08-29-2009, 05:51 AM
#302
It is EXACTLY like losing a great friend and I just dont know what I am going to do about a car. Any other car just isnt a gt3 and test driving things like an m3 are disappointing. I am looking at current gt3's but i feel like I am cheating on her. I know Ill get over it soon. I know I sound crazy
I just hope you never find out.
BTW - I love the color of your car - maybe Ill get a PTS gt3 in your riviera blue...
08-29-2009, 02:09 PM
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Ha...my math is bad.
Modern cell phones are essentially a tracking device....turning them off does no good. Ever wonder why your i-phone has no removable battery? The police know exactly where the car was burned. This witness can verify a time frame of the incident. Being that its in a remote area, all the cops need to do is trace the guys number and see if it matches the location. If he was truly a master thief, he already knew this and likely ditched the phone or had a disposable. Somebody picked him up. They knew where he was...that says (to me) it was premeditated to burn it and a call was made. That and he had the materials available to torch it in the middle of the desert. Obviously there was more than one person involved.
Does the OP have any business enemies? One that would like to see him go away? Angry ex-wives or girlfriends? Know anyone who had access to get a valet key to his car? Who knew the OP was in Vegas? Something like this took a fair amount of planning...hard to believe it was done just out of destroying a random vehicle. It's a really bad business model...high risk and no profit. It cost the thief time and money.
I not saying the OP isnt a random victim...just the official story is bogus. Maybe with the press, the cops wanted the story to go away. Vegas needs as many $100,000 Porsche drivers as it can get...Maybe someone had a beef with the casino? A rival casino might have the means to publically "blackeye" a competitor...and know local thugs they can pay. Using the "valet" as an excuse might keep other wealthy people from parking their cars there....and gamble somewhere else.
Modern cell phones are essentially a tracking device....turning them off does no good. Ever wonder why your i-phone has no removable battery? The police know exactly where the car was burned. This witness can verify a time frame of the incident. Being that its in a remote area, all the cops need to do is trace the guys number and see if it matches the location. If he was truly a master thief, he already knew this and likely ditched the phone or had a disposable. Somebody picked him up. They knew where he was...that says (to me) it was premeditated to burn it and a call was made. That and he had the materials available to torch it in the middle of the desert. Obviously there was more than one person involved.Does the OP have any business enemies? One that would like to see him go away? Angry ex-wives or girlfriends? Know anyone who had access to get a valet key to his car? Who knew the OP was in Vegas? Something like this took a fair amount of planning...hard to believe it was done just out of destroying a random vehicle. It's a really bad business model...high risk and no profit. It cost the thief time and money.
I not saying the OP isnt a random victim...just the official story is bogus. Maybe with the press, the cops wanted the story to go away. Vegas needs as many $100,000 Porsche drivers as it can get...Maybe someone had a beef with the casino? A rival casino might have the means to publically "blackeye" a competitor...and know local thugs they can pay. Using the "valet" as an excuse might keep other wealthy people from parking their cars there....and gamble somewhere else.
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08-30-2009, 04:36 AM
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08-30-2009, 02:40 PM
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Opinions can be modified. Truth cannot.
How is it that someone had ready access and knowledge to easily steal such a car?
How is it that this car, far from its' home, found an able felon to steal? With easy access.
OP: You went to LV to visit an ill relative. Spent your night and early day in a casino.
Small courage.
You need to work closely with your insurance company to absolve and maintain
your name.
How is it that someone had ready access and knowledge to easily steal such a car?
How is it that this car, far from its' home, found an able felon to steal? With easy access.
OP: You went to LV to visit an ill relative. Spent your night and early day in a casino.
Small courage.
You need to work closely with your insurance company to absolve and maintain
your name.
08-30-2009, 11:20 PM
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Opinions can be modified. Truth cannot.
How is it that someone had ready access and knowledge to easily steal such a car?
How is it that this car, far from its' home, found an able felon to steal? With easy access.
OP: You went to LV to visit an ill relative. Spent your night and early day in a casino.
Small courage.
You need to work closely with your insurance company to absolve and maintain
your name.
How is it that someone had ready access and knowledge to easily steal such a car?
How is it that this car, far from its' home, found an able felon to steal? With easy access.
OP: You went to LV to visit an ill relative. Spent your night and early day in a casino.
Small courage.
You need to work closely with your insurance company to absolve and maintain
your name.
Also, red rock is a hotel as well as a casino. It doesn't seem unlikely that someone visiting from out of town would be staying at a hotel.
08-30-2009, 11:37 PM
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A Vegas casino is a perfect target for a car thief. Nothing suspicious about it being stolen from there, or the fact that car theives might choose it as a location to stalk.
Also, red rock is a hotel as well as a casino. It doesn't seem unlikely that someone visiting from out of town would be staying at a hotel.
Also, red rock is a hotel as well as a casino. It doesn't seem unlikely that someone visiting from out of town would be staying at a hotel.
If I were the Op - an innocent - I'd be much more concerned as to how I was followed, rather than the theft.
08-31-2009, 04:11 AM
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A Vegas casino is a perfect target for a car thief. Nothing suspicious about it being stolen from there, or the fact that car theives might choose it as a location to stalk.
Also, red rock is a hotel as well as a casino. It doesn't seem unlikely that someone visiting from out of town would be staying at a hotel.
Also, red rock is a hotel as well as a casino. It doesn't seem unlikely that someone visiting from out of town would be staying at a hotel.
Girls this smart dont date Porsche drivers.....Porsche engineers maybe.
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08-31-2009, 10:49 PM
#313
UPDATE:
I get a call at 6am and the detective wants to come and talk to me and so forth. I was like cant we just talk on the phone? He is like, no, I want to discuss this in person. So I was like ok great, come on over.
He asks me all sorts of questions. Some of them are very weird. He asks me if I know anyone that would want to steal my car and so forth and if I know anyone in Vegas, blah blah. It goes on for about 20 minutes.
Then he hands me pictures of my car, which has been torched and had signs of major abuse (the front spolier was completely gone for example). It took me at least 30 seconds to accept the fact that it was in fact my car....
He says that it is not possible to steal these cars and that I had to have paid someone to do this to my car. I was in utter shock. Seeing my car dead and burned and then being falsely accused of having been involved with it.
This is all totally insane.
I had my car key on me and my other key is at my home in LA. The detective took my car key.
They threatened me for about 1 hour saying that if I didnt confess that I was going to jail.
Anyway, I didnt do it and since I had my key on me I dont understand why/how they think I had anything to do with it.
I get a call at 6am and the detective wants to come and talk to me and so forth. I was like cant we just talk on the phone? He is like, no, I want to discuss this in person. So I was like ok great, come on over.
He asks me all sorts of questions. Some of them are very weird. He asks me if I know anyone that would want to steal my car and so forth and if I know anyone in Vegas, blah blah. It goes on for about 20 minutes.
Then he hands me pictures of my car, which has been torched and had signs of major abuse (the front spolier was completely gone for example). It took me at least 30 seconds to accept the fact that it was in fact my car....
He says that it is not possible to steal these cars and that I had to have paid someone to do this to my car. I was in utter shock. Seeing my car dead and burned and then being falsely accused of having been involved with it.
This is all totally insane.
I had my car key on me and my other key is at my home in LA. The detective took my car key.
They threatened me for about 1 hour saying that if I didnt confess that I was going to jail.
Anyway, I didnt do it and since I had my key on me I dont understand why/how they think I had anything to do with it.
08-31-2009, 11:25 PM
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Stealing a $100,000 car isnt suspicious at all....torching it is. Crime's root is about motive...which is money, revenge or passion. This makes no sense....nobody is that bored. The thief got paid...who paid him is the mystery. Burning it is a statement...what was the statement? If you are after GT3's, you already know they are to the gills in security. In defense of the OP...burning the car would be the stupidest thing he could have ever done. Which would be brilliant...but thats another thread. It was a set up...but WHO was set up. My money is on the casino...or a really brilliant pissed off ex-girlfriend.
Girls this smart dont date Porsche drivers.....Porsche engineers maybe.
Girls this smart dont date Porsche drivers.....Porsche engineers maybe.
Ill take both of your bets because it was neither.
09-01-2009, 12:56 AM
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guys, you make this way too complicated.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.
believe me, when i was much younger, i get bored a lot. burning down cars and other things...... , putting bananas in exhaust pipes, dump glue in door locks, stealing ppl's underwears... you name it. why do i do it..... i have NO clue....
so stealing a car and burning it down... could very well be just for fun.
let it go.