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Old 05-30-2019, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Balr14
I have noticed the rear end moving on my 997.2 a few times. I thought maybe something was wrong. It's not something I expected from a low torgue engine with such huge tires and weight in the rear. I'm glad to learn it's not uncommon.
What does 'rear end moving' means? In what circumstances, road type, etc?

997 is the last of the pendulum dynamics 911. The center of mass is behind the driver seat. That has great advantages for the 911 driver who understands transfer of mass and how to take advantage of for traction and braking at the limit. It also means that turning is the so-called 'slow in, fast out'. A driver who understands the 911 chassis does not slide/oversteer-or-understeer a 911 and is faster than those who do or even drive 'balanced' cars. It takes knowing the cars though...

A 991 is far more balanced and more accessible to the typical driver who is not schooled in classic 911 driving.
Old 05-30-2019, 11:17 PM
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The road was straight for several hundred feet then a small jog to the right. The rear end felt like it kicked out a little at that jog, under hard acceleration. Road surface was macadam, dry and pretty smooth.
Old 05-30-2019, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Balr14
The road was straight for several hundred feet then a small jog to the right. The rear end felt like it kicked out a little at that jog, under hard acceleration. Road surface was macadam, dry and pretty smooth.
It's all about smoothness to control transfer of mass. Smoothness with all inputs - steering, throttle, brakes. And of course, road surface adhesion is a major factor. On low grip surfaces only accelerate at and past the apex, naturally - slow-in, fast out.

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Old 05-31-2019, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyD
The opposite of this. People are gravitating towards the 997.

If you look at current pricing, for same mileage and similar year (though sample size is too small), the prices have converged. There is no premium for getting a 991 vs. a 997.2. Arguably the 7.2s are now pricier.

Again, too small a sample size but clearly people are not paying a premium to have the newer model. I would never trade my .2 4S for an equivalent (miles / trim) 991.1 4S. Why would I get the car that looks worse, has less steering feel, and has 0.1 secs better 0-60 time and quarter mile time?
A little weird although I'm not surprised and I've noticed the same trend.
Old 06-02-2019, 07:06 AM
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Only time will tell - but the only thing I can imagine right now is that the 991.1 will be remembered as the last 911 with a NA engine. Other than that it will probably be the 996 of its generation...



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