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Not a wing fan but that one looks different. And that it allows the original deck lid to operate normally makes it even better. Very cool looking car. Any thoughts of closing that wheel gap with springs or coilovers?
I don't know...I'm already scraping every speed bump and curb ramp I have to climb. A hydraulic lift system would definitely help...but at this point lowering the car further will make it impossible for me to use it in the city. Next week I'm actually installing new rear suspension (OEM) and front coils because the existing ones are pretty worn out.
Checked another "to-do" item off of my upgrade list this afternoon...
Original wheel as installed at factory in November 2008 OEM - used but pristine condition Big difference from the original one Intended for single use (blue thread locker) Used bolt - new thread locker Able to reuse original airbag Really pleased with the outcome
I don't know...I'm already scraping every speed bump and curb ramp I have to climb. A hydraulic lift system would definitely help...but at this point lowering the car further will make it impossible for me to use it in the city. Next week I'm actually installing new rear suspension (OEM) and front coils because the existing ones are pretty worn out.
Yeah I guess it depends a lot on where you live. In southwest Florida the roads are good, most everything is flat so steep driveways and other scrape traps are rare. Mine is lowered 1.25" with H&R springs and I have very infrequent issues. The front lip has a few light scrapes on it but that's easily fixed in about 20 minutes with some fine sandpaper, old newspaper pages, blue tape and a $3 can of satin black spray from Home Depot.
That is a grrrrreat upgrade, @Ironman88. Completely updates/upgrades the look (and feel, I'm sure).
Nice work!
Bob
Thanks Bob.
That original steering wheel look really dated the interior. I am surprised how making this one change completely updated and improved the look of the overall interior.
I had looked at so many steering wheel options over the past year. Really contemplated going with a 991.2 wheel - but the overall cost did not make sense to me (Steering wheel + adaptor + new airbag). Would have easily cost me double, and for me would have contributed zero added value.
Thanks Bob.
That original steering wheel look really dated the interior. I am surprised how making this one change completely updated and improved the look of the overall interior.
I had looked at so many steering wheel options over the past year. Really contemplated going with a 991.2 wheel - but the overall cost did not make sense to me (Steering wheel + adaptor + new airbag). Would have easily cost me double, and for me would have contributed zero added value.
Well, @Ironman88, you have contributed to adding to my (increasingly expensive) wishlist.
Above my pay grade too with all the variables. All you say makes sense but I'm not sure I can draw a definite conclusion from it.
I agree. I've had H&R springs on the three 997's I've owned and I never felt that the ride was any stiffer than OEM. But reading posts about lowering springs here it's rare to find one that doesn't complain about the "stiff", "harsh" or even "horrible" ride they produce. Seems to be the consensus but like I said, I disagree with it.
Sums it up. Some good reasoning and reasonable speculation by several but no hard and fast conclusion. Maybe there isn't one. OEM or after market springs may have no meaningful affect on shock and/or strut life.
Bilstein makes this and other points about using lowering springs with stock shock absorbers. Stock shock performance suffers with unmatched springs.
Bilstein B12 (Pro-Kit) suspension kits include a complete set of Bilstein Performance dampers paired with Eibach (Pro-Kit) springs that provide moderate lowering between 24-40mm (depending on application). These kits offer dampers and springs that are tuned for each specific application to provide the best fixed height lowering solution. Bilstein B12 (Pro-Kit) suspension kits provide the perfect combination of suspension dynamics, quality and aesthetics.
Bilstein makes this and other points about using lowering springs with stock shock absorbers. Stock shock performance suffers with unmatched springs.
Bilstein B12 (Pro-Kit) suspension kits include a complete set of Bilstein Performance dampers paired with Eibach (Pro-Kit) springs that provide moderate lowering between 24-40mm (depending on application). These kits offer dampers and springs that are tuned for each specific application to provide the best fixed height lowering solution. Bilstein B12 (Pro-Kit) suspension kits provide the perfect combination of suspension dynamics, quality and aesthetics.
This may be a "Who's buried in Grant's tomb" type question but...which shocks are in the Bilstein B12 package?
I already have the Eibach Pro-Kit springs, so which shocks are they packaging with them in the event I go ala carte?
B8 it is. A couple of years ago I wanted to install the B12 kit on my car but there was a huge backlog. So had to find out what the components were and buy them separately.
So what's the verdict, Shyamvenky? Worth it? I'm assuming you got the Eibachs and B8s after all, yes?
Thanks, again, gentlemen!
Bob
I've been quite happy with the results. The B8 set is about the same stiffness as the B6, except they are a bit shorter to better suit lowering springs.
For me the difference was night and day simply because the car had H&R springs when I bought it and the OE dampers were shot (bottomed out) - so I refreshed the entire setup.
For everyday use they are very good. I still wouldn't expect to simply waft over bumps - they are meant for a Porsche after all
I did consider going with coil-overs, but they're more expensive and much stiffer and my daily driving doesn't need them really.
Great, that's very helpful, @shyamvenky. Thank you.
As mentioned, I have the Eibach Pro-Kit springs, just have not put them on yet (spring) and was thinking of replacing the shocks anyway. I have been leaning toward the B4/OEM replacements as I'm pretty happy with the ride and did not want to make it too stiff. The fact that the B8s are designed to be used with a stiffer spring, yet you are daily driving with them, is a good endorsement.
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