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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by plpete84
I'm not sure why you find it so hard to believe that Porsche could have built this one-off. I'd definitely reach out to Porsche to see if they can provide additional info based on the VIN.
You guys need to brush up on your German and read some of the documentation. Car was factory-owned and registered in Germany to Porsche AG and hand-specified as a GT3 mockup. Due diligence and all but story checks out. It has miles on it, this was a Sunderwunsch build probably for someone high up in the org involved in GT3 design.

Overhead console badge? Hans kid probably got the sticker at the executive luncheon in March 2000.



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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 02:55 PM
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" Dealer Installed X51 " was one way to "get around" the Import Restriction on 996.1 cars .....But the cost to do this at the time was about $25k .....

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That Guards X51 was indeed a PCNA car that was gifted to a PCNA executive or dealer. Car was engine-disassembled converted to X51 by delivering dealer with all documentation. It had also been used as a chicken coop for a decade or two. @switchcars or VinWiki made a video about it I believe
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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 02:59 PM
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My understanding from @switchcars was the entire Guards X51 car was a "bonus" to the first owner from PCNA corporate. And that gifting included the promise of X51 installation upon delivery. Nice work if you can get it!


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" Dealer Installed X51 " was one way to "get around" the Import Restriction on 996.1 cars .....But the cost to do this at the time was about $25k .....
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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 03:19 PM
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Not really . Porsche Gold Meisters dreaded big jobs like this that were paid by Labor Time from the Porsche AG Warranty "Book"...The Labor Times were incredibly low when compared to Chilton or Motor Manuals Labor Time Standards..

The only consolation when done was an "atta boy" ...lol

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My understanding from @switchcars was the entire Guards X51 car was a "bonus" to the first owner from PCNA corporate. And that gifting included the promise of X51 installation upon delivery. Nice work if you can get it!

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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 03:27 PM
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I will buy "mockup" sure. "Prototype for homologation" with that motor?? No way Jose (however you spell that in German)


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You guys need to brush up on your German and read some of the documentation. Car was factory-owned and registered in Germany to Porsche AG and hand-specified as a GT3 mockup. Due diligence and all but story checks out. It has miles on it, this was a Sunderwunsch build probably for someone high up in the org involved in GT3 design.

Overhead console badge? Hans kid probably got the sticker at the executive luncheon in March 2000.
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Old Jun 21, 2024 | 03:29 PM
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Haha, I meant the cushy executive job at PCNA! High six figures I'm sure, PLUS an X51 "bonus" ???!!

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Not really . Porsche Gold Meisters dreaded big jobs like this that were paid by Labor Time from the Porsche AG Warranty "Book"...The Labor Times were incredibly low when compared to Chilton or Motor Manuals Labor Time Standards..

The only consolation when done was an "atta boy" ...lol
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 11:30 AM
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Early build with 38k miles and a new short block sold for $36k.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...rera-coupe-77/

Nice example with a not-the-usual color combo (though I am personally not a fan of Savannah Beige interiors). Did well IMO
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 12:38 PM
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Well, yellow 996.1 is up to 50K on P Car Market, which is already pretty strong money but still 2 days to go!
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 12:42 PM
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Hope they check out the condition of the engine and service history to make sure it's not a very pretty and expensive paperweight.
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 01:18 PM
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eh history shmistory... wouldn't be the first time someone paid a large premium for a color overlooking everything else. Sometimes it seems there are as many types of buyers out there as there are variants, colors or options on a 911
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 01:43 PM
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Hah! It's like marrying a beautiful woman without talking to her. Little did you know she was high maintenence crazy. But she is pretty and has that going for her.
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by autofiend
Early build with 38k miles and a new short block sold for $36k.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...rera-coupe-77/

Nice example with a not-the-usual color combo (though I am personally not a fan of Savannah Beige interiors). Did well IMO
I'm curious why people don't like Savannah Beige (I've heard others say it, not just your comment). It's a common color, yes, but it seems better than most of the other colors to me. I've had two 996 with Savannah Beige -- the first interior I didn't like because it was vinyl (no full leather option), but the second 996 in leather I like a lot. The 4-spoke wheel I had on my first one put the color in your face, but looks much better with the 3-spoke wheel in my second 996. The interior in that BaT listing almost looks lighter than Savannah Beige, but it's probably the lighting in the photo.

996 colors: https://howtoporsche.com/911-series/...r-color-codes/

Black is more neutral, but a bit too dark. Natural brown would probably be my favorite. Dark gray would seem to be pretty nice. I'd probably put Savannah somewhere around third. I special ordered Cinnamon for my Q5, and generally like that color, but not sure I love it as much in the 996.
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by plpete84
Well, yellow 996.1 is up to 50K on P Car Market, which is already pretty strong money but still 2 days to go!
They're only yellow once (to hack a phrase).
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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peterp
I'm curious why people don't like Savannah Beige (I've heard others say it, not just your comment). It's a common color, yes, but it seems better than most of the other colors to me. I've had two 996 with Savannah Beige -- the first interior I didn't like because it was vinyl (no full leather option), but the second 996 in leather I like a lot. The 4-spoke wheel I had on my first one put the color in your face, but looks much better with the 3-spoke wheel in my second 996. The interior in that BaT listing almost looks lighter than Savannah Beige, but it's probably the lighting in the photo.

996 colors: https://howtoporsche.com/911-series/...r-color-codes/

Black is more neutral, but a bit too dark. Natural brown would probably be my favorite. Dark gray would seem to be pretty nice. I'd probably put Savannah somewhere around third. I special ordered Cinnamon for my Q5, and generally like that color, but not sure I love it as much in the 996.
to each is own. In person, to me it has a slightly yellow tint to it which I don’t like. I usually like brown interiors
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Old Jun 25, 2024 | 07:46 AM
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I once had a 970.2 Panamera with a Luxor Beige interior. The glare of the sun reflecting off of the light-colored dashboard was brutal. I'll never buy any car with a light colored dashboard (from any manufacturer) ever again.

Pic of my old car is attached. Pic of the split color dashboards that came after a certain point. I think it was a result of the class action lawsuit against Porsche for the light colored dashboards.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/p...re-119747.html
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