peterp

It’s really important to know what the energy content of the new efuels will be. A gallon of gas has 33.7kWh of energy and ICE engines are 50% efficient at best. The energy content of the new fuels will determine how much mileage they can deliver.

Pure Ethanol (E100), dor example, only contains 22.3 kWh of energy. As a result, a car running on E100 will only get about 66% of the gas mileage the exact same car would get on gas.

If the new efuels have really high energy content (much higher than gas), then they could deliver much higher mileage. I don’t know what energy content Porsche or other efuels have.

Porschetech3

Serious question:: what is the real cost per mile of driving an EV? .........That is the bottom line ( along with Smiles per Mile )

I have thrown away many battery powered tools and kids toys, along with every day items...but the high quality mechanical ones still have use and value...Like an old grandfather pendulum clock

The EV's have been on the market for over a decade, maybe still not enough time to get a real " cost per mile" figure , but it would need to include all the money spent from the " working people" to really tell how long before it becomes a productive way for the masses to transport...

I'll gladly pay the $3-$4 dollar a gallon for petrol until the day I die( which will not be a long time) my thoughts and comments are just in thinking of my grandkids economic future...( they may not be interested in driving my old Porsche, even if it would be the least expensive transportation they could possibly drive..)

Marv

I've had very good luck with DeWalt cordless tools. The batteries, although expensive, seem to be superior to other brands I've had, and are interchangeable with their other tools.

On the EV side of things, my test drive of the Taycan was very impressive. It's a large 4-door sedan that drives like a small car. Don't know how Porsche does it, but the ride and power is impressive.

Now Porsche has done it again on the Nurburgring with a pre-production version of the Taycan, circling the ring in a stunning 7 minutes and 8 seconds. That's just 4 seconds slower than the venerable GT4 RS!

Say what you will about batteries, but Porsche builds some impressive machinery...

Porsche Taycan's 'Ring Time

GC996

Here you go. For those that want to read about Porsche's e-strategy. You will find many rabbit holes to go down.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2023...0the%20future?

To bring it back to the "Prices Going Up" thread, classic ICE powered Porsches like the 996 will have fuel to power it long in the future.

Lets face it...

1. It's attractively priced versus the "old school" air cooled classics and the "new school" techno wizardry of the newer models.
2. In relation to the air cooled cars, it's faster and handles better.
3. In relation to the newer models it's easier and cheaper to service with a plethora of solutions to mitigate the failure points for a reasonable price.

​​​The phrase "sweet spot" is an appropriate description for the 996. Go long the 996.

Marv

All three good points! As long as parts are available I plan to keep mine rolling, but I sometimes wonder if I am being a bit of a Luddite.

GC996

We definitely can't stop progress. But hopefully we can slow down knee jerk reactions that aren't well thought out.

I am no greenie, but I appreciate clean air, clean water and don't like piles of trash sitting on the side of the road or floating in bodies of water. I guess you can call me an economical environmentalist.

911Dreamer

Another sweet spot 1 of 3 models to truly have a TRUE Targa glass roof that many of the modern cars still cant compete with....PS I love my creaks lol...

2mAn

Anyways, this looks nice. Also watching the Targa that ends today.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...1-carrera-4-3/

plpete84

Strong money for a low mile 40AE with a replaced engine. According to the seller, it had the newer engine with the larger bearing, which makes me wonder what they did with respect to X51. Were those engines available in later years with the 997 engines or were the heads and other important pieces moved over.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...niversary-103/

Porschetech3

Replacement 40th AE engines were available ( X51) and IF they were replaced after 2006 they would have had the "large" 997 IMSB....because Porsche was no longer using the small single row IMSB to build any engines after 2006...

2mAn

@plpete84 I'm currently trying to convince a buddy to get a 40th AE and he was shocked to see it sell for that much. I think higher mileage ones should be closer to his budget.

50k Mile Targa sold for $37,250.

GC996

Good to see the sale price for the 40AE. For the longest time all we saw was fever for the C4S. Now it's spreading to the 40AE and turbos. Important that it does. Rising tide lifts all.

plpete84

If he can, have him drive one. It really helps to seal the deal. It's a shame that so many new owners spec'd the comfort seats in them. The came by default with the sport seats with color matched hard backs but seem to be quite rare. A guy that lives around the corner from me has been searching for a 997 Turbo but gave up due to prices being north of $100k for a nice manual car. He's been eyeing my car every time I'm washing or working on it and after going out for a proper ripper with me one afternoon he is now an owner of one. So now we have 2 40AE cars less than a block apart and he couldn't be happier. I think he paid around $47k for a car with mileage in mid 30k region. Comfort seats though.

2mAn

24k Mile 2000 in Biarritz White
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...rrera-coupe-1/

Slightly Modified C4S
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...carrera-4s-10/

GarrettSR5

Hopefully Millenium Editions are next. One of my favorite special edition 996s (because 996.1>996.2)