Prices Keep Drifting Up
#541
I really started this thread because as 996 prices began to rise as 2021 began, many people were in denial and continued to write off higher prices as one off sales, or because of the particular color, or because of the low mileage. I wanted to document enough data points to show that its an across the board move higher that can't be explained away as one off transactions. I think that's clear to everyone now.
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#543
I really started this thread because as 996 prices began to rise as 2021 began, many people were in denial and continued to write off higher prices as one off sales, or because of the particular color, or because of the low mileage. I wanted to document enough data points to show that its an across the board move higher that can't be explained away as one off transactions. I think that's clear to everyone now.
Boy were you right and I was wrong.
They are going up.
But as others have said, all sports cars seem to be going up as well.
I specifically watch Miatas, Boxsters, 944s, 928s, and Subies.
They have all gone up, but not nearly as much as 996es.
Higher selling prices don't matter much to me since my 996 is not for sale, and I don't ever plan to sell mine.
But higher prices do prevent me from getting another 996...which might actually be a good thing!
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#544
IMO doubt he's lying.
1. He certainly has considered the possibility this will end up in court and lying risks 10x times more bad publicity.
2. So assuming he's not lying then car was not FSD, like mine, and it's true, on suburban streets autopilot does not turn on.
3. He has no reason to lie because even if the guy was able to enable autopilot and jump in the back (which I doubt because when I lift my butt off the seat to access my wallet my Tesla brakes hard) it would be an unauthorized use of the feature, as if you drove your Porsche at 120mph on a 25mph public street and caused death.
4. These anecdotal events will do little to affect adoption of electric cars, more than anything they show the weight carried by companies like GM to sway the news cycle and how financial pundits report on Tesla. You want lies, watch the news across two stations that are politically opposite.
Elon puffs the product a lot but he's not a blatant liar. He's sometimes late with features but overall he delivers. He's loose with labels like FSD but they do creep closer and closer. He was slapped down by the FCC but that was more of a rule infringement than a lie.
1. He certainly has considered the possibility this will end up in court and lying risks 10x times more bad publicity.
2. So assuming he's not lying then car was not FSD, like mine, and it's true, on suburban streets autopilot does not turn on.
3. He has no reason to lie because even if the guy was able to enable autopilot and jump in the back (which I doubt because when I lift my butt off the seat to access my wallet my Tesla brakes hard) it would be an unauthorized use of the feature, as if you drove your Porsche at 120mph on a 25mph public street and caused death.
4. These anecdotal events will do little to affect adoption of electric cars, more than anything they show the weight carried by companies like GM to sway the news cycle and how financial pundits report on Tesla. You want lies, watch the news across two stations that are politically opposite.
Elon puffs the product a lot but he's not a blatant liar. He's sometimes late with features but overall he delivers. He's loose with labels like FSD but they do creep closer and closer. He was slapped down by the FCC but that was more of a rule infringement than a lie.
Elon will go down as the biggest scammer of the last decade. The cars are neat and I applaud him for changing the narrative on EVs, but he is a complete scumbag.
Not in the last year, sure, but Miata prices (at least for nice NAs, and late-model NBs) have been going up for a long time, but that's different forces in play, the attrition rate is much higher there. IMO the 986 will not get any love for a long time -- that's the same story as the 924/44/28/etc, they will only be worth something once all the cheap ones are destroyed.
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Regarding 2 and 3, you are incorrect. FSD can easily activate on a road with no lines -- this has been proven over and over again. The seat sensor has no impact on FSD operation either. LMAO at being sometimes late, FSD was coming in 2016.. then 2017, 2018.. 2019. 2020 (oh wait wasn't there supposed to be 1 million robotaxis on the road by now?). That's just the tip of the iceberg of the TSLA fraud.
Elon will go down as the biggest scammer of the last decade. The cars are neat and I applaud him for changing the narrative on EVs, but he is a complete scumbag.
Not in the last year, sure, but Miata prices (at least for nice NAs, and late-model NBs) have been going up for a long time, but that's different forces in play, the attrition rate is much higher there. IMO the 986 will not get any love for a long time -- that's the same story as the 924/44/28/etc, they will only be worth something once all the cheap ones are destroyed.
Elon will go down as the biggest scammer of the last decade. The cars are neat and I applaud him for changing the narrative on EVs, but he is a complete scumbag.
Not in the last year, sure, but Miata prices (at least for nice NAs, and late-model NBs) have been going up for a long time, but that's different forces in play, the attrition rate is much higher there. IMO the 986 will not get any love for a long time -- that's the same story as the 924/44/28/etc, they will only be worth something once all the cheap ones are destroyed.
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Holy Sh__! $55K for a 996!! All it takes is 2 people wanting that car..... great!! I loved watching that. I thought my 2001 at 45500 miles was low mileage. That will raise all the prices on BAT, what an impact.
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