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Old 12-06-2021, 10:53 AM
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No more foam coming out of your vents!
Hey everybody, this is what you have to do to fix it!
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:11 AM
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No more foam coming out of your vents!
Hey everybody, this is what you have to do to fix it!
Haha.



Old 12-06-2021, 11:24 AM
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Turbo bumper with some aero widgets bolted to it.
my car has a tech art bumper with winglets. I guess more down force. Dude you are nuts for going after all that wiring. In case you didn’t saw it here is yesterday’s 10 hr 6 lb brisket flat cook, mesquite, hickory and post oak. Look at the bad ***
smoke ring on it. God speed . By the way Jason thanks for the Fcp euro referral, just bought a serpentine belt, plugs and some aluminum crush washers to get the free shipping.


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Luis - tell FCP I sent you. I need a sponsorship 😃
Old 12-06-2021, 11:46 AM
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Luis - tell FCP I sent you. I need a sponsorship 😃
yes you should be a brand ambassador and get stipends from all these brands you use and recommend. Yes I definitely told them. By the way the local Porsche dealer my price wanted $50 for the serpentine belt, FCP $23. And now to my local specs liquor store between AAple and Conoco Phillips stock I’m
over $35k on the green today, so I need to buy me a nice bottle of bourbon. I buy soo much alcohol from these guys that I even get a birthday card, a Christmas card, an anniversary card, from them and get invited to a bunch of sampling’s, that’s how you get loaded without spending a penny. Drinking the good stuff.

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yes you should be a brand ambassador and get stipends from all these brands you use and recommend. Yes I definitely told them. By the way the local Porsche dealer my price wanted $50 for the serpentine belt, FCP $23. And now to my local specs liquor store between AAple and Conoco Phillips stock I’m
over $35k on the green today, so I need to buy me a nice bottle of bourbon. I buy soo much alcohol from these guys that I even get a birthday card, a Christmas card, an anniversary card, from them and get invited to a bunch of sampling’s, that’s how you get loaded without spending a penny. Drinking the good stuff.
Glad to see you are driving the fundamentals for Diageo and InBev. Just be careful not to drink and drive.
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Glad to see you are driving the fundamentals for Diageo and InBev. Just be careful not to drink and drive.
that’s why I got the wife darth Vader on Friday, that’s my limousine ride when I get drunk. Don’t attemp this at home, I was actually paid for 25 plus years to drink all over the world with customers, you kind of develop a system, like a well trained athlete. Saturday is the December end of the year Porsche dinner at the Houston museum of natural science, last time the wife and I attended one of this social dinners we where the life of the party and the President of the club and the Chairman of the social activities where saying that next time they were going to sit with us, needless to say my bar tab was $200, anyway we are taking dart Vader on Saturday. We just got this on Friday.

This is like a candy store for adults the size of a small shopping center.

One to mix, higher octane to sip. $35 Dollars well spent.

2021 Darth Vader triple black, so I’m not racist. Even though I’m brown 😂
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Adapter brackets for the very large calipers came in today. Had not really fondled the calipers much since they arrived but the brackets showing up game me a good excuse.

I have to say, performance wise, I am somewhat dubious of what these huge brakes are going to do for me, the ones on the car worked pretty, pretty good and between the calipers and 380MM Sebro (don't want to drop the money on 2PC rotors with FCP lifetime warranty on the Sebro's available - turns out 380MM rotors are STUPID expensive) rotors, I'm thinking I'm going to take a big unsprung weight hit...BUT... I don't care ! look at them, they are glorious !




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Adapter brackets for the very large calipers came in today. Had not really fondled the calipers much since they arrived but the brackets showing up game me a good excuse.

I have to say, performance wise, I am somewhat dubious of what these huge brakes are going to do for me, the ones on the car worked pretty, pretty good and between the calipers and 380MM Sebro (don't want to drop the money on 2PC rotors with FCP lifetime warranty on the Sebro's available - turns out 380MM rotors are STUPID expensive) rotors, I'm thinking I'm going to take a big unsprung weight hit...BUT... I don't care ! look at them, they are glorious !



wish you had done some testing like braking distance from 100 mph, in that way like the car magazine testing you could compare one to the other . Anyway you have your track data, lap times max speed etc, we will see how bad *** these really are.
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127MPH to 45MPH in 3.9 seconds



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Just be careful with the hard lines for brake fluid, especially if you will replace them. I have nightmares having the caliper end fuse together and spin but not come out. Had to drill it out.
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Originally Posted by zbomb
127MPH to 45MPH in 3.9 seconds


I would think the limit for braking is how well the ABS works. Maybe the larger brakes would get the ABS working more quickly, saving a touch of time, and the larger brake area area would allow the ABS to work more aggressively. Off ABS, you should see increased sensitivity, similar to the change you saw when you changed out the master.

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Stopping force is going to be dictated by grip primarily and as you said, how effective the ABS is at dealing with managing lockup when mechanical grip is lost. If the brakes are strong enough to get the ABS doing it's thing, then clamping down on the disc with more pistons should not add much.

But - it should help in maintaining consistency during a session by adding a whole **** ton of thermal mass to the system along with more surface area to facilitate better cooling.

From a feel perspective, I have learned that I like a really firm pedal, like really firm... so if this adds anything to the improvement in pedal feel I got from the Cup master, I would be pumped up.

We'll see, the calipers were a really good deal and I had been playing with the idea of doing this for a while, as long as it doesn't set me back any performance, this brake package has the fundamentals to work better for me longer term especially if I abandon the stock ABS at some point and switch to a motorsport ABS.
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In the datasets, there is a brake pressure log in PSI. I assume there is a sensor somewhere just off the master cylinder. Here's a comparison of the best lap(1:20.8) on 7/29(blue) before the cup master went in and the best lap(1:19.3) from 9/16(green). The pressure on the later lap is clearly much higher, but I'm not sure this is from the new master cylinder. The bigger master will move more fluid with the same stroke, but the total pressure limit is defined by traction as Jason mentioned above. I think the increase in pressure is simply driver improvement: optimized line on the track, optimized braking. Maybe the master helped the improvement to happen by changing how fast the pressure can be applied. I'm not sure pressure will be useful to show better performance from the new calipers. Certainly we'll see it in the acceleration.


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So nice to see you putting up pictures and analyzing squiggly lines Paul !

I can tell you, braking has been a really difficult process to improve, I have had to tell my body to not listen to my head, my head yells "BRAKE" but the car can run deeper. It's been a process but as your data review shows, I was able to make improvements..

That said, where I got better after the main straight, braking later and harder, in most of the other areas, you can see, I'm not getting on the brakes with the aggressiveness I do for the main straight, that's time being left on the table. As can be seen from the main straight brake event, the capability is in the car and I should be be able to use it ALL THE TIME, but I don't. In some cases, there will be other factors at play but I think in the the majority of braking events, if the car can hit 1.4G of deceleration as shown on the main straight, I need to get that same force everywhere.

The sensor is located between the master and the ABS module




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