2019 Engine Rebuild Comparison RND/FSI/EBS/Vertex
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golock911 (05-11-2021)
#272
Three Wheelin'
I agree with you.
you wouldn’t have know how much money he has. He even had worn out tennis shoes. I learned this a long time ago don’t judge a book by the cover, the millionaire next door is a great read.
#273
Other things have been been occupying my attention lately, so I haven't checked-in on RL.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
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#274
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Other things have been been occupying my attention lately, so I haven't checked-in on RL.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
#275
Three Wheelin'
Another option
Other things have been been occupying my attention lately, so I haven't checked-in on RL.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
For the record, as the OP on this thread, I don't think @zbomb's post about LS swaps was off-topic. The only reason I didn't include it in the original comparison was because I wasn't interested in that option and didn't do the research.
Also, one of the reasons I started the thread was because every other thread on here was a relentless swarm of FSI fans trying to convince me to go that route. An FSI build is clearly one of the best options for people who have the time and money for it, but it's not the only viable option. We all benefit from good information and discussion about different alternatives to the terrible situation of having a dead engine.
#276
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Originally Posted by 3/98 911 coupe;[url=tel:17443752
17443752]not certain if anyone brought this up. Since I was looking at a possible roller. On Monday local Porsche dealership quoted me short block with warranty $8,125. They told me that’s 3 to 5 business day and you have to bring your core. I think we always have to look at all available options. Anyway my mechanic who has taken Jakes rebuild courses and also works at a PCA shop, works for a few people at his house so that would be who if needed, I would use.
BTW, short blocks just 3 years ago were $6500-ish.
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nrp3 (05-23-2021)
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So you get a short block with the same cylinder wall surface and the larger more reliable IMS bearing. I wouldn't mind the IMS bearing, I just don't trust the cylinder walls if I was going to keep the car for more than 10 years and I drove the car year round with cold winters.
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#280
Three Wheelin'
There is more than meets the eye.
So you get a short block with the same cylinder wall surface and the larger more reliable IMS bearing. I wouldn't mind the IMS bearing, I just don't trust the cylinder walls if I was going to keep the car for more than 10 years and I drove the car year round with cold winters.
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Mike Murphy (05-23-2021)
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ok so i was just looking at options. No I don’t need an engine, mine is real healthy so far I have put 5,000 miles on it no issues at all. I like making my own decisions, I am an engineer with a bachelors and masters and worldwide business experience plus a ton of lubricants , engines etc. I think these engines can last, I personally have driven cars with as many as 225,000 miles and the engines where still good. In this forum dejepeer was racing a 200,000 mile engine. Some other folks 9 seasons racing tracking no issues. Also as Porsche tech 3 taught me there are differences between the early engines with lokasil 1 and the latter engines with lokasil 2. Also if you have seen reenvision the episode where they discussed the 996 Jake clearly states that he prefers the early ones, and that his preferred color is a white one and he also states that the way he would buy it, would be a blown up car and he clearly states that these seem to never blow up. One of Jakes best ever recommendations is more frequent oil changes, think about it any engine where you do more frequent oil changes it’s going to last a lot longer. Anyway I have done quite a bit of reading and watching stuff about bore scoring, there are a bunch of reasons why garage queens, cars that get put away for 6 months, etc will have a lot higher tendency for this. I don’t disagree that nickies or chrome moly are better technologies for piston cylinders interfaces. I had my reasons when I finally decided why I choose an early 99, the more I drive the car, the more i learned about them , I become more more satisfied about my decision.
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plpete84 (05-24-2021)
#283
Drifting
That's what I was thinking about. I don't know what the production dates are on the blocks being sold today but if its anything remotely recent, would Porsche be applying the same coating in 2020/2021 as they did in say 2000?
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