boomboomthump

Surely to do with someone taking hobby in casting doubt...

Blue TTop

He also destroyed that recent 4k-mile green 993 cab auction. And as a so-called expert he should have provided engine hours. Not sure he knew it was possible until I mentioned it.

mdude

$200k for a WB is now considered giving the car away. Oh, the horror...

plog

Can someone explain this one to me? Been on the lot for months http://www.catsexotics.com/vehicle-d...wa-id-42982448

HelpMeHelpU

What's your real question? Why it's been there for a while?

Not knowing the car, I would say the price is a tad high given the miles. Not crazy high but somewhat high.

Why don't you call them and ask?

rsabeebe

the thing this rapid price increase has done for many is to make you assume that every car that is asking/going for big money is perfect. we all know this is never true. [almost] every car needs something and many need more than that. i agree, the mileage is suggesting a price that might be a tad high, but $160k is not a low price for a C2S. at the end of the 3rd quarter last year that price would probably be considered a stretch. i would suggest it's possibly not a perfect example and/or the market still feels that number is high for the mileage. only putting your eyes on a car will tell you if the price is appropriate.

rk-d

Agree with above.

You don't know the story (if there is one) unless you ask. $160k is still strong money for a 54k miles C2S. Pre-2021, the value was probably $100-110k.

Otherwise, the crazy valuations seem to be as much a BaT phenomenon as anything else.

plog

Yes, my question was really why this particular one might not be moving considering every other C2S of this spec seems to be flying off the lot or bringing similar or better money on BaT/PCAR.

I have spoken to the dealer several times but have not gone as far as to get a PPI. From the dealer it sounded like there might be some oil seepage of unknown origin.

Was actually hoping someone else on the board had seen this in person and might comment on condition or otherwise.

403portside

It’s a good question and the only answer I can come up with is that there is some price and quality perception dislocation between BaT and dealers. BaT is clearly winning the reputational game right now and I think that + auction dynamics means BaT creates the perception of having the most vetted cars and the best prices for sellers. I purchased a 58K mile C2S in October for considerably less from one of the most reputable dealers in the industry. I think there was a time a few months ago when dealers may have been mis-pricing relative to BaT and now they’re trying to play catch up (with mixed results)

sleepili

I agree with this assessment. I picked up a 97 C2S last month from a dealer. While he was certainly aware to the general trends re: 993 values, he wasn't as well versed to the current BaT pricing dynamics, so I thought I got a good price. I've continued to monitor the market closely since, and dealers are starting to get smart to the BaT dynamic and any arbitrage is pretty much gone now.

mdude

Pics. Pics. Pics...
Never get sick of images of 993, WB or NB.

sleepili

Will post a proper intro thread soon. Car is in the shop now getting major service, suspension refresh, new brake lines, new headlights, etc. etc. None were surprises, so credit to solid PPI!

plog

Here's another that has been on the lot since May of '21 https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/...pe-c-12630.htm

Dealer is seeking BaT prices and apparently holding strong.

Zed.

It's probably this car from Puerto Rico. Think Maria, think a lot of water.

WP0AA2995WS320216
Country: Puerto Rico,United States
Model: 911 CARRERA S COUPE
Model Year: 1998
Model Type: 993-340
Exterior (paint code): Zenith Blue Metallic Exterior/Zenith Blue Metallic Exterior (F1

autobonrun

Zed, what does the 340 number mean in 993-340? Type of transmission maybe?