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Old 03-23-2020, 06:21 PM
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Hi, May I be added to the list? I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Wow, I didn't pay any attention to this thread for a while and suddenly the device morphed into something completely invisible and mounted behind the clock. BRAVO.

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Old 03-23-2020, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jlaa
Hi, May I be added to the list? I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Wow, I didn't pay any attention to this thread for a while and suddenly the device morphed into something completely invisible and mounted behind the clock. BRAVO.

Thanks.
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay777
Paul- the IMMO BLOCK takes the place of the gong relay which is behind the fuel gauge. It's just a friction fit but after all these years it takes a little coaxing. I used a stiff putty knife with masking tape wrapped around the end which was risky. If you're stuck on Gilligan's Island and that's all you have give it a try, but there are tools that make it easier (post 276). If it's really, really stuck Orangebox's post (#371) describes a way to get to it from the frunk.
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Nothing has to be done to the fuel gauge, just pry and pull it out, leave the wires connected, reach thru the hole and switch out the gong relay with Jay's magic box. If you want to make it easier to remove the gauges again I recommend that you clean off most of the brown sticky glue from the rubber around the gauge housing so that it will be easier to slide out, I used the silicone grease to allow easier install and removal, also you can push the other gauges from behind if you want to clean those too. That is all optional.
Thanks for the tips!

Already have a set of the pry-tools, and silicone grease is ordered.

BTW, shipping was very fast.
Old 03-24-2020, 04:15 PM
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The first time i took the gauges loose I used a medium sized flat blade screwdriver with packing tape folded over the end. Started on left side, then moved to the right side using the other gauge's rim as a leverage point. It took a while, but being careful it came out. The outer rubber turned brownish after removing, but with a little cleaner it looks like new. That was to install the Bergville electronic turn signal flasher, last year.
Old 03-24-2020, 05:16 PM
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I have not installed my Immobilizer yet, but I was wondering, has anyone ran the Durametric scan tool after the install to see if the scanner has any issues. I know if you don't disable the immobilizer the software won't recognize the car. I am sure it's not an issue, but still curious.
Old 03-24-2020, 06:09 PM
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Got my Immobilizer Block yesterday. Looking forward to installing it! FedEx initally lost my package, but it finally came through.
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Old 03-25-2020, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rg0115
I have not installed my Immobilizer yet, but I was wondering, has anyone ran the Durametric scan tool after the install to see if the scanner has any issues. I know if you don't disable the immobilizer the software won't recognize the car. I am sure it's not an issue, but still curious.
Short answer: if your scan tool worked before the install, it'll work after the install.

Remember: communications between the ODB port and ECU pass through a switch in the immobilizer. When the immobilizer is "primed" (locked with the FOB), the switch opens, blocking communications. When the immobilizer is "unprimed" (unlocked with the FOB) the switch closes. IMMO BLOCK keeps the immobilizer unprimed, so as long as that physical switch inside the immo is ok, your scan tool will work the way it always did. This is true BTW no matter what scanner you use - from the cheapest generic to the most capable.

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Old 03-25-2020, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay777
Short answer: if your scan tool worked before the install, it'll work after the install.

Remember: communications between the ODB port and ECU pass through a switch in the immobilizer. When the immobilizer is "primed" (locked with the FOB), the switch opens, blocking communications. When the immobilizer is "unprimed" (unlocked with the FOB) the switch closes. IMMO BLOCK keeps the immobilizer unprimed, so as long as that physical switch inside the immo is ok, your scan tool will the way it always did. This is true BTW no matter what scanner you use - from the cheapest generic to the most capable.
Good to hear Jay, thank you.
Old 03-25-2020, 01:45 PM
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Has anyone checked the standby current drain (once the 993 enters sleep mode - 3-5 minutes after key-off) with and without the mod?
Typically the 993 sleep current is about 60 ma (.060 amps).
Old 03-25-2020, 02:09 PM
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Installed and test drove it today

Perfect! Very happy with the mod

Thx jay
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Originally Posted by Paseb
Installed and test drove it today

Perfect! Very happy with the mod

Thx jay
Canada vehicle #1! Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Jay777
Canada vehicle #1! Enjoy.
Yes and a canadian car! Not an imported usa one

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I've been away from Rennlist for a while and just read this thread. I'd love to get in on this if there are any available. Thanks...
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Originally Posted by sawitt
I've been away from Rennlist for a while and just read this thread. I'd love to get in on this if there are any available. Thanks...
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:38 PM
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Default Got mine installed

Installed mine today. 15 minutes total time. Works as advertised.

Will have to get used to no alarm chimes, but I suspect this will not affect the way I enjoy the car more than the IMMO block has improved the experience of ownership. And, it is reversible.

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Thank you Jay and all involved in the development of this mod. Should now be included in the Top Ten list of 993 must-do.

Cheers!




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