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Old 12-24-2023, 04:45 PM
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(I would hate to see the ICE engine shut down intermittently during highway cursing, effectively turning the 911 into a front-wheel drive electric car! But how could Porsche resist, if it helps bring down emissions, improve fuel economy, and increase range???)
I doubt they would have a $200k+ sports car shut down the engine and operate in FWD only mode for any real driving. There may be a low speed EV only mode that the driver can select like there is on the E ray.
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Originally Posted by malba2366
I doubt they would have a $200k+ sports car shut down the engine and operate in FWD only mode for any real driving. There may be a low speed EV only mode that the driver can select like there is on the E ray.
my prior i8 did just that in pure electric mode… just fwd unless you kicked down, ran out of battery or placed in sport (red!) mode. Not a proper sports car with the standard tires though… if they still made one, and upgraded the brakes/tires, may have gotten another instead of the incoming t. Was a lot of fun as a daily driver!
Old 12-28-2023, 08:43 AM
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wow, NA 3.6 in the GTS
Same here. I just wish they had in the base carrera and carrera s I'm really excited to hear this thing.

Definitely going to save extra for a GTS when it comes out.
Old 12-28-2023, 11:27 AM
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Are folks here really so excited about NA in a GTS that they don't care it's a hybrid? Give me turbos all day instead of a hybrid. I'm clinging on as long as I can. lol
Glad I got a 992.1 GTS, but I really hope the 992.2 GT3 isn't going hybrid. Please no!
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Old 12-28-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Are folks here really so excited about NA in a GTS that they don't care it's a hybrid? Give me turbos all day instead of a hybrid. I'm clinging on as long as I can. lol
Glad I got a 992.1 GTS, but I really hope the 992.2 GT3 isn't going hybrid. Please no!

This ⬆️ 100000%
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Old 12-28-2023, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Are folks here really so excited about NA in a GTS that they don't care it's a hybrid? Give me turbos all day instead of a hybrid. I'm clinging on as long as I can. lol
Glad I got a 992.1 GTS, but I really hope the 992.2 GT3 isn't going hybrid. Please no!
It's going to be a mild hybrid....not a Prius. The only thing you'll notice is the start/stop functioning more smoothly. I would be more worried about long-term reliability than it being a mild hybrid.

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Originally Posted by 3uros
It's going to be a mild hybrid....not a Prius. The only thing you'll notice is the start/stop functioning more smoothly. I would be more worried about long-term reliability than it being a mild hybrid.
You assume I don't know it's going to be a 'mild' hybrid. My wife has an A5 with mild hybrid, so I'm very familiar. Mild or spicy, it's still a hybrid.
You also assume what I'm worried about or not. I never mentioned my specific gripes with it being a hybrid.

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Originally Posted by 3uros
It's going to be a mild hybrid....not a Prius. The only thing you'll notice is the start/stop functioning more smoothly. I would be more worried about long-term reliability than it being a mild hybrid.
If it is naturally aspirated, It is going to have to be more than a mild hybrid to maintain current power and performance levels. Look at the massive difference in 0-60 times between the 991.1 and 991.2 models, a naturally aspirated 3.6 with a tiny battery/motor is not going to replace the loss of turbos.

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Old 12-28-2023, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ctdubl07
Would really like to know what hiding under that camo shift boot...
Not a manual shifter that's for sure.
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Not sure why people are that bothered about a mild hybrid when it will simply enhance the driving experience. Haven’t seen anyone complain about the holy trinity employing hybrid technology.

​​​​​​…. and why would you prefer turbo over NA (with hybrid) if the performance is comparable. Turbo is just lazy power.

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Old 12-28-2023, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee Germanz
Not sure why people are that bothered about a mild hybrid when it will simply enhance the driving experience. Haven’t seen anyone complain about the holy trinity employing hybrid technology.

​​​​​​…. and why would you prefer turbo over NA (with hybrid) if the performance is comparable. Turbo is just lazy power.
I think people get negative about the hybrid because the perception is that there are more negatives than positives. More weight, more complexity, good luck working on it yourself, large costs associated with out of warranty work, possible change to driving dynamics etc. The benefit being instant torque. GT car drivers have been dealing with poor torque down low forever and just don’t care. Not what the car is about. Carrera drivers like myself may not think that is even needed, and the Turbo is ***** fast without it. Generally speaking, it’s unneeded and adds all the negatives I mentioned.
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The problem is that it's not a natural evolution of the engine design. It's forced due to regulations. One can argue that hybridization is the future no matter what, although electric motors are older tech than ICE, but I digress. At this point, there isn't any time to innovate anymore because of deadlines to comply with regulations, and hybridization seems to be the only answer. So, yeah. I'm against it because it's not a design decision to go hybrid.
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I dunno f1 has been using KERS for a bit. If there was some other big way for progress I feel like it would have been done.
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Originally Posted by dchang81
I dunno f1 has been using KERS for a bit. If there was some other big way for progress I feel like it would have been done.
Ooof. That's a can of worms you just opened. Talk about regulations and different goals altogether. Apples and oranges imho.


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