siberian

Last count about 1,100 Porsches + unknown number of VDubs of all designations from the 2,500 vehicles on board.

For those who don't speak/read Spanish/Portuguese, video from the Portuguese Navy shows the extent of the damage.

Cause etc. let's not speculate. Glad no one was injured or died and hopefully Porsche will make this right, as for owners, can't fathom what another delay means.

The Felicity is owned by Mitsui OSK Lines of Japan with the crew being evacuated to Faial Island about 100 miles from the ship in flames and adrift. Tugs are being contacted to tow it to the nearest port but it could be declared a total loss.

https://www.clarin.com/autos/buque-i...kPi6frIhB.html

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Lucent

The video is definitely not the Felicity Ace. It may be them picking the Felicity Ace crew off the tanker.

siberian

The first images are, the rest are of the crew salvage off the tanker

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Lucent

Yes... Sorry, I missed the first couple seconds of the video. Still can't figure the smoke being White.

Drew46

Cars don't "blow" with any amount of gas. An explosion requires rapid burn and pressure and you simply don't get that with a car fire. Now some shock may blow and the bumpers may blow but the car does not explode.

Regardless, my bet is that the remainder of the cars will be totaled from the smoke damage alone. More often that not, more damage is caused by smoke and water than the fire itself.

siberian

I think it's best not to speculate what caused the fire but to post any developments as to Porsche's official position on this, whether the ship is salvageable enough to be towed to a harbor given meteorological conditions or whether it will just be allowed to burn and sink or just be sunk to prevent collisions etc.

There will be an inquest and plenty of time to determine what happened. Let's not derail this thread and keep it informative and meaningful. TY

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brianja

@krabman <slow clap> I already "liked" this post, but wanted to acknowledge it directly. Thank you for sharing these insights with the group. This was a really interesting read.

Porsche757

It's fine to speculate while evidence is gathered. We are naturally curious creatures and speculation helps us feel at ease plus it's interesting.

CodyBigdog

I will “speculate” that this thread will go on for a long time, so I’m out.

Glad to hear that those involved were not hurt. It sucks if your car was on this ship, but you will be made whole again, I’m sure…although it will take some time. In the meantime, think of the great story you have to tell your grandkids, neighbors and colleagues.

Jimmy-D

First- Like everyone here; so glad no one was seriously injured

Second- this will affect all of us who have orders in that not have not already been produced. Meaning, those that had cars on this boat will certainly be delayed but knowing Porsche they will probably push these spots in front which will further delay all of us in question.

Yes - this is going to suck for most of us.

slc4s

OMG... I just read an article on maritime law and how because the ship is now abandoned its technically "finders keepers". I love maritime law. I've got an industrial water pump and a big hose. Who's with me! Lets go get her.... We'll split the bounty!

siberian

Take speculation to the Off Topic thread as it's not a 992 topic.

It's unknown how many Porsche vehicles are onboard, how many 992s or what the cause of this fire was. If you want to speculate then by all means the Off Topic forum is meant for that. Let's keep this with as I mentioned facts, position of Porsche on this issue and any legal or other findings affecting 992s to those whose orders are affected by this. Thank you

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peterdouglas

on that basis, this entire thread should be removed, since not 992-specific.
what is the advantage to 992-subscribers of proliferating another thread or forum on the subject?

///BYU

I joined Rennlist just so I could like this post.

yesyoucan

No owner has paid for the car. In fact it still belongs to porsche. The dealers haven't paid for the car either. I don't see how anyone would be out anything for something they haven't even paid for. It sounds cold but that is what it is, no?

it might be a different scenario if people already owned the cars, paid for it and then shipped it to a different location for whatever reasons and the ship went on fire. It would be an insurance thing for the owners of the cars at that point.