Car Transport Ship Felicity Ace Catches Fire Mid Atlantic
#76
I know, too early, but any speculations on the cause? Lithium batteries? Has Musk or Tesla groupies, been seen in the area, recently? 🤔
Last edited by CodyBigdog; 02-17-2022 at 11:16 AM.
#77
Burning Brakes
I don’t believe that the loss of one car carrier vessel is close to material to the total pure car carrier (pcc) vessel fleet - although the 7,000+ figure is for all ro-ro vessels, of which pcc vessels are only one type.
However, I also believe that this immateriality is only one small factor among the large number of complications that will delay deliveries of VWAG vehicles following the loss of the Felicity Ace.
However, I also believe that this immateriality is only one small factor among the large number of complications that will delay deliveries of VWAG vehicles following the loss of the Felicity Ace.
#78
Burning Brakes
We will have to wait and see what the cause and issues were
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Good to hear the crew is safe!
I imagine the Panamera GTS Sport Turismo that I ordered March 2021, and is confirmed to be on the Felicity Ace, will not arrive at the dealer next month. ugh
I imagine the Panamera GTS Sport Turismo that I ordered March 2021, and is confirmed to be on the Felicity Ace, will not arrive at the dealer next month. ugh
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Well, for those of you wondering if the cars can be saved my lay-persons understanding of the laws of salvage is that once a vessel is abandoned, as this one has been, no permission is required for a 3rd party to salvage it. As in take it in tow for example. If that happens then a whole different set of rules come in to play, the ship and cargo effectively become the property of the person or persons salvaging it.
On the other hand even if the ship is saved VW will have a claim against the shippers, insurance will kick in etc. Either way the cargo is toast literally and figuratively. I very much doubt any of these cars will escape the crusher.
On the other hand even if the ship is saved VW will have a claim against the shippers, insurance will kick in etc. Either way the cargo is toast literally and figuratively. I very much doubt any of these cars will escape the crusher.
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Racer
VW will likely need to just declare this a total loss for insurance purposes - regardless of if there are any cars that may be salvageable.
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Well, for those of you wondering if the cars can be saved my lay-persons understanding of the laws of salvage is that once a vessel is abandoned, as this one has been, no permission is required for a 3rd party to salvage it. As in take it in tow for example. If that happens then a whole different set of rules come in to play, the ship and cargo effectively become the property of the person or persons salvaging it.
On the other hand even if the ship is saved VW will have a claim against the shippers, insurance will kick in etc. Either way the cargo is toast literally and figuratively. I very much doubt any of these cars will escape the crusher.
On the other hand even if the ship is saved VW will have a claim against the shippers, insurance will kick in etc. Either way the cargo is toast literally and figuratively. I very much doubt any of these cars will escape the crusher.
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Speculation is just that, speculation. All we KNOW is that the vessel is on fire, or was on fire, it contains up to 4000 cars, of which about 800 are Porsches, and that it was abandoned by the crew and is adrift.
For all we know, the fire burned itself out/was contained to specific decks and other decks in the hold are untouched and many vehicles will still be delivered.
Or the ship might burn to the waterline, sink, and all gets delivered to Davy Jones.
Maritime salvage laws are interesting. Totally worthy of their own discussion.
For all we know, the fire burned itself out/was contained to specific decks and other decks in the hold are untouched and many vehicles will still be delivered.
Or the ship might burn to the waterline, sink, and all gets delivered to Davy Jones.
Maritime salvage laws are interesting. Totally worthy of their own discussion.