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We noticed a slight difference on the back wheels which is now corrected. We also saw there was not much camber at the front. So based on my driving experience he suggested to put more camber in the front. We did a 40% camber. I guess this is too much, but better to start at the ends and adjust accordingly.
This changed the car completely and made everything more direct in the initial steering input, so in the exact sense that I was missing before. My other Porsches have always been adjusted as well so this felt like coming home. Dear me, what an impressive change of steering behavior.
I will also test it at high highway speeds. I assume it will be a bit more nervous at very high speeds. So I assume I will be lowering the camber by 20% after thorough testing. Then it will be 20% more than it was. I am guessing that would be perfect for me.
I would always advice everybody to check the alignment of every car. It’s simple and very cheap to do and the results are most of the times quite big.
We noticed a slight difference on the back wheels which is now corrected. We also saw there was not much camber at the front. So based on my driving experience he suggested to put more camber in the front. We did a 40% camber. I guess this is too much, but better to start at the ends and adjust accordingly.
This changed the car completely and made everything more direct in the initial steering input, so in the exact sense that I was missing before. My other Porsches have always been adjusted as well so this felt like coming home. Dear me, what an impressive change of steering behavior.
I will also test it at high highway speeds. I assume it will be a bit more nervous at very high speeds. So I assume I will be lowering the camber by 20% after thorough testing. Then it will be 20% more than it was. I am guessing that would be perfect for me.
I would always advice everybody to check the alignment of every car. It’s simple and very cheap to do and the results are most of the times quite big.
- Camber affects grip in the corners.
- Caster affects steering and handling
- Toe affects stability and initial turn in
Regarding "alignment, simple & very cheap" - I also had a feel that something was off with my CS, went to the manufacturer owned dealership (Niederlassung), had to really convince them to run a test ("the car it's too new", "very expensive work and for sure it doesn't pay off", etc) and after getting the results and seeing why while turning right, the car is not quite "perfect", wanted them to adjust the settings. Nope, "the differences are too small", etc etc. I can live with that, but it could also be perfect. Eh, win some lose some, the car is anyway more of a butcher's cleaver than a surgeon's scalpel. Oh, and they charged a few hundreds € too, just for measuring, no adjustment.
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Thank you for this. Part of me has been thinking that the GT4, Carrera T, and my 7.2 GT3 would be fairly evenly matched and there it is.... tires are the equalizer.
Carrera T manual - 1.55,7 min, 246 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight)
GT4 manual - 1.55,0 min, 252 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight) - Cup2 tires!
Carrera T manual - 1.55,7 min, 246 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight)
GT4 manual - 1.55,0 min, 252 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight) - Cup2 tires!
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Lol - I dug up these numbers from the youtube video a while ago and had them written out on a sticky note. Funny that sometimes we go down the rat hole of what is faster/fastest when we forget that in the 911 lineup the T has the lowest HP motor with all other things mostly being equal - so inherently it likely won't be faster than anything. I bought it because it was a build more focused on the driving experience which is not necessarily equal to speed. As it there's plenty of speed for public roads to end up in jail.
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I have added the times for the GT4 (manual and PDK and RS) and the one for the GTS 4.0 manual.
Hockenheim - 4.574 km (2.842 miles)
992s and the Cayman GTS 4.0 on Pirelli PZero,
GT4s on Cup2 tires, GT4 RS on Cup2R
Driven by the same driver (GT4 PDK and RS driven by C. Gebhardt, a somewhat better driver).
Carrera T manual - 1.55,7 min, 246 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight)
Carrera S manual - 1.53,4 min, 262 km/h
Carrera GTS PDK - 1.52,7 min, 262 km/h
Carrera 4 GTS PDK - 1.53,3 min, 260 km/h
GT4 manual - 1.55,0 min, 252 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight) - Cup2 tires!
GT4 PDK - 1.54,6 - Cup2 tires and better driver
GTS 4.0 manual - 1.56,9 min, 246 km/h
GT4 RS PDK - 1.47,6 min, 256 km/h - Cup2R tires and better driver
Hockenheim - 4.574 km (2.842 miles)
992s and the Cayman GTS 4.0 on Pirelli PZero,
GT4s on Cup2 tires, GT4 RS on Cup2R
Driven by the same driver (GT4 PDK and RS driven by C. Gebhardt, a somewhat better driver).
Carrera T manual - 1.55,7 min, 246 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight)
Carrera S manual - 1.53,4 min, 262 km/h
Carrera GTS PDK - 1.52,7 min, 262 km/h
Carrera 4 GTS PDK - 1.53,3 min, 260 km/h
GT4 manual - 1.55,0 min, 252 km/h (before braking at the end of the longer straight) - Cup2 tires!
GT4 PDK - 1.54,6 - Cup2 tires and better driver
GTS 4.0 manual - 1.56,9 min, 246 km/h
GT4 RS PDK - 1.47,6 min, 256 km/h - Cup2R tires and better driver
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I can’t believe it but my T is finally on its way!!! Why a vehicle with only 2 options on it took so long is beyond me, but my wife and I are very excited that we will be cruising around in the T shortly. Also getting a bit paranoid about purchasing a vehicle at this price point as I am nowhere near as financially secure as many here are.. I guess this is the time in my life for questionable financial decisions and just enjoy owning a special car and being able to share these times with my lovely and extremely supportive wife. I will have to post a few pics when it arrives and again, thank you to all of the fantastic individuals who helped me at the beginning of this process. This is my first brand new Porsche and only my second, with the other being a long gone 1994 968 cab.. This truly is a great place with so many wonderful people United in their love for Porsche. Wishing everyone here a fantastic day and great driving weather! 👍🏻
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I can’t believe it but my T is finally on its way!!! Why a vehicle with only 2 options on it took so long is beyond me, but my wife and I are very excited that we will be cruising around in the T shortly. Also getting a bit paranoid about purchasing a vehicle at this price point as I am nowhere near as financially secure as many here are.. I guess this is the time in my life for questionable financial decisions and just enjoy owning a special car and being able to share these times with my lovely and extremely supportive wife. I will have to post a few pics when it arrives and again, thank you to all of the fantastic individuals who helped me at the beginning of this process. This is my first brand new Porsche and only my second, with the other being a long gone 1994 968 cab.. This truly is a great place with so many wonderful people United in their love for Porsche. Wishing everyone here a fantastic day and great driving weather! 👍🏻
Enjoy it in good health, both of you.
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T-7 days….
I take delivery at PEC ATL in 7 days…. Car arrived in Jacksonville at the end of April, delivered to PEC ATL the day after Memorial Day. We head to Atlanta Tuesday evening…
I take delivery at PEC ATL in 7 days…. Car arrived in Jacksonville at the end of April, delivered to PEC ATL the day after Memorial Day. We head to Atlanta Tuesday evening…
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