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The T will be a big first for me in many ways. I am also quite young (late 20s). It will be the first car I purchase (I have been driving around my high school beater since... high school). It will be my first sports car, my first Porsche, my first 911. When I graduated undergrad and grad school, I committed to saving and investing prudently and living well below my means. A manual 911 has been my dream car since I first saw a bright yellow 996 GT3 at a local concours. While my friends went out and lived in fancy apartments with amazing amenities, I shacked up with the strangest roommates possible to keep my rent at ~1,000/month. While my friends all splurged on C Classes, 3-series, A4s, I trudged along in my ugly beater. I never wanted a "stepping stone" car. The thought of going from my beater to a 911 fills me with genuine pride. I have worked very hard and I am so excited for my T.
I am pulling the trigger now because I think after the T, the 911 will transform beyond the 911 that first captured my heart. The impending loss of the analog tachometer and the hybrid set up particularly pushed me over the edge. Beyond the emotional component, I also value the relatively shallow depreciation curve on 911s, particularly manual 911s.
Congrats on your successful delayed gratification. It will taste oh so sweet. I bought my first 911 at 28 and never looked back. I highly recommend you take it to autocross and then track. Buying it is the first step. Learning to control it at speed is how you'll squeeze every ounce of enjoyment it has to offer. I started when I was 35 and wish I'd done it earlier.
There were allocations available at my dealer as well. Is this an undesirable model just cause it’s more of a driver's car and less of a flex?
Huh? All indicators suggest that it is wildly popular and desirable. There are loads of people hoping/waiting for an allocation and it appears to be the most discussed Carrera model on Rennlist.
Porsches are about feel. Weight is directly tied to feel. The 356 weights 2,300 lbs. The first 911 weights 2,400 lbs. It's been an upward climb since. If I'm buying a new 911 for street use, it has to be the lightest available. Simple as that.
Huh? All indicators suggest that it is wildly popular and desirable. There are loads of people hoping/waiting for an allocation and it appears to be the most discussed Carrera model on Rennlist.
I had multiple dealers reach out to offer me allocations. I think its fair to say 992T demand is lower than S/GTS etc etc probably due to very limited option availability.
I had multiple dealers reach out to offer me allocations. I think its fair to say 992T demand is lower than S/GTS etc etc probably due to very limited option availability.
this. The optionality of the S is far richer. T is likely a car for brand loyalists as the S likely offers more mass appeal.
Porsches are about feel. Weight is directly tied to feel. The 356 weights 2,300 lbs. The first 911 weights 2,400 lbs. It's been an upward climb since. If I'm buying a new 911 for street use, it has to be the lightest available. Simple as that.
2300 is pretty easy with anything old - I bet most 356s are much less than that. My '72 T is ~2350 with me in it, 1/2 tank of gas on a 23 gallon 80s carrera gas tank, a euro 84 alum trans, 930 brakes, air conditioning and a 993 3.6l motor. All heavy stuff for an old car but it goes like stink.
There were allocations available at my dealer as well. Is this an undesirable model just cause its more of a driver's car and less of a flex?
What region?
I think it varies pretty greatly based on market, and if they're still charging ADM.
Here in the SF Bay Area the nearest 4 dealers have wait lists (one already maxed and not taking new names). Would be interesting to know how many folks have their names down at more than one.
Did find two dealers with no wait lists and open allocations... the $15-25k ADM was the reason why.
Did you happen to do the Porsche Motorsport hospitality package and talk to any of the staff? Many were from Atlanta and are super cool Porsche enthusiasts...and have super interesting jobs. Like interior/exterior designers, build specs advisors, race weekend hosts, etc. Great people working for a generally small company. Makes me feel even better about buying a new one. And I've changed my color already as well as a few options based on some great conversations. Have a matching mug now too lol although honestly, I picked this up originally to give to a PG owner here. Other advice I was given that might conflict with others here? Skip the leather package/dash and possibly consider race-tex headliner instead. Also saw a PG, errr SB 992 GT3 in the lot that had the painted interior pieces - looked terrible to me. Tomorrow I'll send my build over to this one individual I met for a consult.
I couldn't agree with @KenTO more. I specced mine with the carbon roof and burmester (adding almost $10K to the cost) but I'm hoping that if this is a car I keep for a long time, I don't want to regret saving a few thousand dollars but wishing I should have ordered them. I'm also conscious that if I do end up selling this car down the line, I won't get my money back on these options and that's ok.
I get it if you have a budget and you want to stick to it. I also get it if you don't really care about certain options (e.g., carbon roof and burmester lol). But what I don't get is this whole "spending $$ on XYZ doesn't fit the point of this car." Who are you trying to convince? Nobody outside of these forums will care about the "ethos" of your car. If you like something and you can afford it, get it!
Hell, I ordered it (the cheap one - for the standard interior) and I still agree with you on that. It wasn't much money and the different sport-tex seat centers will at least be easy to see but, yea, I wish the stitching offered more readily apparent contrast. That said, I think it'll be a bit more noticeable in person vs pictures. I didn't want "neon" green stitching (esp with gentian blue exterior) and for me marginally detectable contrast was preferable to none.
At my local dealer they have two 911 Edition 50 years targas in the showroom with Slate Grey stitching and the contrast is MUCH greater in person than in pictures or the configurator. Even two SAs at first glance thought it was chalk stitching. The slate grey won't ever be confused for a wow color, but the contrast, although subtle, still looks quite good.
Huh? All indicators suggest that it is wildly popular and desirable. There are loads of people hoping/waiting for an allocation and it appears to be the most discussed Carrera model on Rennlist.
Yeah I was surprised by that comment, too.
Originally Posted by chapmans
I had multiple dealers reach out to offer me allocations. I think its fair to say 992T demand is lower than S/GTS etc etc probably due to very limited option availability.
Originally Posted by jonbek
this. The optionality of the S is far richer. T is likely a car for brand loyalists as the S likely offers more mass appeal.
Carrera S may have more mass appeal but that doesn’t mean the T is undesirable. I’m #8 at my dealer and they stopped taking deposits. Seems like all MSRP allocations were gobbled up pretty quickly.
Originally Posted by vasmir
What region?
I think it varies pretty greatly based on market, and if they're still charging ADM.
Here in the SF Bay Area the nearest 4 dealers have wait lists (one already maxed and not taking new names). Would be interesting to know how many folks have their names down at more than one.
Did find two dealers with no wait lists and open allocations... the $15-25k ADM was the reason why.
...the T hopefully will be that car that is fun on the streets, the highway and twisties, but also liveable every day. I don't need high horsepower, I just want to find something with that special sauce. Hence I am going to spec it with every option I want, cost be damned. Curious to why others have chosen the T.
I chose the T for exactly the same reasons as you gave above. That and I had been waiting 18 months for an S allocation, so I pounced when a T allocation became available a couple weeks ago (I had turned down a GTS allocation in Dec). Of course, I had only requested a 992 S back in July 2021 because the 992 T did not yet exist!
While my T build is "poverty spec" at $125k, I got everything I wanted except PTS - I desperately wanted to blow another $11k on Oak Green but as we all know by now, PTS on the T was a big fat lie.
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