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Old 11-03-2023, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by VarTheVar
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I'll watch this video later but 911s are for sure the worst value sports car out there. I'm not after value on the larger scale if I'm spending 150k on a 380hp car with subpar suspension and small brakes and door rattles ​​​​and a horrible stereo. The value proposition lies with bmw. Driving experience is over here with our cars
Probably not the best place to get support of this. First, I disagree. Second, it may be only 380hp...but they undeniably punch above their weight!
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Old 11-03-2023, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Mine has recently begun production as well. 😁
@Alek plus @TUD Now that both your cars are in production (V260) I would love to know when they come out of production V290 (Vehicle exit assembly) ?
In other words how may days they are in the build process to see if production really has been ramped up? My car has just come out in five days.




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Old 11-03-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cachaco
lol I have dark mode on so had to add it in white to see it!
I have only seen one shark blue 911 (gt3) here in the east bay. Don't seem to be common.
At first I thought you didn't write anything in your post.

I was referring to the shark blue Ts, there are two here, from the Bay Area.
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cachaco
I have only seen one shark blue 911 (gt3) here in the east bay. Don't seem to be common.
The first 992 T delivered locally last March/April was a Shark Blue one followed by Python Green at #2. A Shark Blue GT3 was delivered mid-Summer.

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Old 11-03-2023, 09:39 AM
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ClubRacer523
To be fair, M division did some magic when they tuned the G80 suspension. It feels a lot more nimble than it should for the weight it carries. I can take e46 m3 lines through most corners at the track except where you have quick transitions, then you really do feel the weight and need to let the car settle itself before getting back on the gas. Ultimately, you can't defy physics.
They had to, the F80 front end is weak, the G80 is ~200-300 kg heavier and they wanted something more tame. Drove (on track/road) the F80 Competition and CS back to back to the G80 Competition and it felt like one was a M3, the other a M5. I wouldn't daily a F80 CS on Cup2s, but I can live with a G80 Competition x drive on PS4S or S5.

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Don't get me wrong they are still seriously quick cars, just very boring to drive after you get used to the torque. Power isn't everything.
They toned down the crazy S55 from the CS, the S58 feels more "grown up" and no spiky torque delivery as before. It's more driveable and has more torque everywhere (even if, when compared the CS, it only has 50 Nm more). The ZF fits perfectly in the mix.
<8 min BTG laps without breaking a sweat (private track day, manufacturer involved etc, wouldn't time or drive fast during TF. Or drive at all, lately) or feeling like you are pushing it.

Can't wait for the next year, as I plan to bring the T to a few private track days on the Nordschleife. It felt so good at Zandvoort but I think the nature of the Nordschleife fits more the T than the GP track.
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Mine has recently begun production as well. 😁
heck yeah! I am sure you cannot wait! It will be here quicker than you know!
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Originally Posted by Vernin
heck yeah! I am sure you cannot wait! It will be here quicker than you know!

Thanks! Less than 50 days until arrival, +/-.
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TUD
Thanks! Less than 50 days until arrival, +/-.
Woah, so right around a December 20th pick-up? What an amazing Christmas present!
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Vernin
Woah, so right around a December 20th pick-up? What an amazing Christmas present!
Per my dealer the internal ETA is literally just prior to Christmas. As we all know that could be sooner or later, but I am being advised that more than likely later due to the holidays. Not a big deal as winter will more than likely have its grasp on us until mid/late March.

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Man, I just can’t get away from this T. Chill work Friday from Manhattan coffee shop. Had one of my montage vids running…guess what T popped up on screen, ha.

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Old 11-03-2023, 11:47 AM
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@VarTheVar ​​
"I'll watch this video later but 911s are for sure the worst-value sports car out there. I'm not after value on a larger scale if I'm spending 150k on a 380hp car with subpar suspension small brakes door rattles ​​​​and a horrible stereo. The value proposition lies with BMW. Driving experience is over here with our cars"

I think you are missing some facts

The 2023 BMW M4 CSL MSRPs at $139900.00 has 543 hp, 3.0 Inline 6, and 3640 Pounds. Its Record on the Nuremberg ring is 7:18.137
The 2023 Porsche 911 992 Carrera T MSRP is $118800.00 it has 380 hp, a FLAT 6, and 3,254pounds. Its record on the Nuremberg ring would be close to 7:37.90

A car with 163 more horsepower is only 19 seconds faster. The MSRP is $21000 more than the T. Most people are getting their fully spec-out T for less than the starting price of your BMW.
If you were to tune the T to 473 hp, I would get 125.632. Which is only 7 seconds faster than your beloved BMW.
Tune the T to 500 hp I bet it would get 7:21.00 which you can do with these engines, and it will be faster than your car around the Nuremberg ring.

If you have driven a 911 and a similar hp or even 600 hp BMW on the track, you should realize the differences in handling, suspension, and breaking.
The BMW will have more horsepower but that does not matter if you cannot apply it effectively. I mean every time you corner the car rolls like a fat pig.
I can consistently pull 1.8 gs around a turn or even more in a 911.
In the BMWs I drove on Circut De Americas I was lucky to get one 1.2g. Any more and it would break traction.
Let's not forget that BMWs have their fair share of cheapness, plastic that squeaks everywhere when you get in and out, shift in your seat, when you touch the console or your dash.
My T has not had a single problem with rattling, or a horrible stereo. I have the Burmeister which is better than Harman Cardon. The Suspension seems to be enough as the car is only 12 seconds off a BMW.

with this information, I do not think it is proper to say the 911 is the worst-value sports car out there.

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Man, I just can’t get away from this T. Chill work Friday from Manhattan coffee shop. Had one of my montage vids running…guess what T popped up on screen, ha.
now I feel like a celebrity. Maybe this is what it feels like to be @tourenwagen best is when he did this and sent this to me




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