LARNIOCNK

Oh ok and yes, the chosen reg is registered to the car depending where in the year it's released in the UK, March being the new plate, then Sept: https://www.newreg.co.uk/future-releases/

Any idea when a 2022 build will start? I assume that's mid next year.

aggie57

Yes, typically mid-year but it can vary between manufacturers. This year was a bit odd because of COVID screwing around with production schedules.

photonscience

SA told me that C4S, CS, C4 all being released 11/6, TT and TTS one month later

inastrangeland

Doing a little research would say this is not even remotely accurate. I just checked the 4 Porsche dealers in the state of Colorado and there are exactly 12 911s in the whole state. That's an average of 3 per dealer. How did you get the idea that there are hundreds on dealer showrooms?

Jon35

I am not sure there are hundreds of 911's sitting around. Most dealerships numbers have been significantly depleted and on the contrary, I think there are buyers out there without cars to buy.I would go so far as to say that when it comes to available on lot cars this is likely the lowest it has been in years. The three dealers that are around me have exactly two 2020 911's between them. Problem with the current 2020's is that the dealers are not prepared to yield on their prices and are offering the same 5% off of a 2020 when most of us can get a 5% off on a 2021 and so why buy a car that has already depreciated 8% for 5% off. Also why would you hold up delivering a slam dunk sale from someone that is just waiting to hand you 120-150K or more

At the end of the day whether it is Porsche or EPA or both, it just comes down to a screw up. Hopefully it should be resolved soon

slc4s

showing about 300 just on autotrader and not even close to all dealers post their inventory there. not saying its a complete glut of cars at all but coming in to the next 90 days I could see them wanting to move some of them out before the 21s hit, especially if there are lots of 21s sitting at ports already...

Disclaimer: like everybody else, I don't know for sure whats going on here. Delays like this for 1st model year cars are very standard (see what happened to 2020s). Not sure I've seen a delay like this for a 2nd model year, non LCI (.2), with no major updates in equipment. So looking for other explanations.

inastrangeland

Just do a little simple math. in 2019, there were 9,264 911s sold in the US.
There are under 200 Porsche dealers in the US.
At that volume of sales, each dealer would average 3.8 911s per month.
So, here in Colorado, each dealer has less than 1 month of 911s in inventory.
I know for fact, my dealer is not feeling flush with 911s right now. Not to mention any of the other models.

inastrangeland

300 cars is nothing. Even if 33% of all Porsche dealers advertised on AT, that would mean they have about 1 months worth of new inventory up for sale. Most dealers want at least 8-12 911s in stock so they can offer different colors, models, etc. Champion Porsche, one of the largest dealers in the US, currently has 2- 2020 911s for sale.

iamwingman

My dealer has zero 2020 911’s. And he’s a good sized dealer.
I checked Champion also. One base, one S.

speedyj

246 on auto trader if u omit the 2021 listings ..... that’s nothing

ryandarr1979

NationalPreownedPorsche also shows only 100 used 992s for sale in the US. Those plus new cars listed in cars.com/autotrader.com/cargurus.com and the overall selection is fairly limited, especially given the number of people who want to spec their $100k car. Porsche sold just under 10k 911s last year. Figure about 800 cars a month. There are less than half that in dealer inventories. Local dealers always end up with a handful of left over cars from the previous model year where they are blowing them out for 15% off MSRP. Not sure that’s going to be the case early next year.

inastrangeland

With allocations so hard to get i doubt dealers will be willing to heavily discount 2020 models. 2021 is shaping up to be a very low production year for the 911.

lucycan

10,000 new 911s sold last year? Wow! I'm surprised. Figured it was less.

smiles11

It was

Jon35

I agree but if dealers are not prepared to heavily discount the cars they are going to sit because unless you are totally not price sensitive, you are not going to be prepared to pay full price or close to full price for a 2020 car when even 2021's can be got for 3-6%. One thing that it will do is slow down depreciation and we could land up like another 997 situation when very few cars were sold in 2008 in and around the crash and the cars that were are holding their. value really well.

Recently a dealer offered me no more than 5% off a 2020 left over car when another dealer offered me 6% off a 2021 build - unless I am totally price insensitive and want the car NOW there is no way I am going for the 2020. Granted these were both C2