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Old 11-21-2020, 01:17 AM
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COVID is screwing all of us. Hang in there everyone. We’re all in this together.
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Benno911
Very sensible point, no one could predict what is going on right now, or even what will happen next. I am sure it’s not easy for anyone involved in this process...
As one of the guys involved with some of these policy decisions for COVID19 for the military population have been trying to say this to you guys on the forum for about 4-5 mos. COVID19 is screwing up most things and causing even us with all the guns and toys to greatly modify how we do business. I've been on M-W-F shift works since almost Apr/May to minimize workplace contacts and exposures guys. Same holds true for most govt agencies and tons of private industries in Germany as well as across Europe (all of your parts) and here. Thus no one could predict it but delays were/are inevitable and a submission and release process that likely should have been good to go and set for execution in late Sept/early to mid Oct went wayy out the door! Thus the side stepping of dates from Oct to Nov to now Dec.

Lots of folks are hurting out there some very badly....we are fortunate to have these cars guys/gals. First world problems....So when mine gets here..[currently in transit from port now] when...t gets here. Just hope am healthy as is my family to enjoy it!

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Old 11-21-2020, 08:36 AM
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COVID-19 impact is certainly a possibility and it would be nice if there were a way that could be confirmed. I have no idea of the process, but at this stage of the game with these cars produced and sitting at a port for months it seems hard to believe that any physical testing would still be required, and one would think that review and processing of the applications could continue. Will probably never know, but I sympathize with all of you in the CARB states for the additional delay. It can certainly dampen the enthusiasm and cause frustration, especially in the cold weather states (like mine) where the driving season is coming to an end, but that is soon forgotten once your new baby arrives. BTW, I had a '20 Macan S delivered in April that was delayed for 2 weeks due to COVID-19. Crew members on the ship reported symptoms as they were nearing their first stop in Halifax. They spent two weeks in limbo, hoping no additional crew members became ill and extending the quarantine. Not sure how they avoided that, but they did and were allowed to dock and unload at that point. There was no communication from Porsche about it - found the story in a local Canadian newspaper online.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrobc1213
As one of the guys involved with some of these policy decisions for COVID19 for the military population have been trying to say this to you guys on the forum for about 4-5 mos. COVID19 is screwing up most things and causing even us with all the guns and toys to greatly modify how we do business. I've been on M-W-F shift works since almost Apr/May to minimize workplace contacts and exposures guys. Same holds true for most govt agencies and tons of private industries in Germany as well as across Europe (all of your parts) and here. Thus no one could predict it but delays were/are inevitable and a submission and release process that likely should have been good to go and set for execution in late Sept/early to mid Oct went wayy out the door! Thus the side stepping of dates from Oct to Nov to now Dec.

Lots of folks are hurting out there some very badly....we are fortunate to have these cars guys/gals. First world problems....So when mine gets here..[currently in transit from port now] when...t gets here. Just hope am healthy as is my family to enjoy it!
Fantastic post that says it all. Thank you for your service.
We’re all so lucky to be in this position. Stay safe, everyone.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:01 AM
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One word of caution once your dream machine does arrive. Got mine home yesterday, and I was fortunate in that my "hold" at the port was only 3 weeks. I spent about an hour configuring settings, PCM, Homelink, etc and near the end of that got a warning that battery level was low. In the middle of that process had taken it out for about a half hour ride. When I put the trickle charger on, it was reading at the lowest level of charge. So many of you have been waiting a lot longer than that, so you may want to look at that and get a charger on it sooner rather than later.
Old 11-21-2020, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dgtarga
One word of caution once your dream machine does arrive. Got mine home yesterday, and I was fortunate in that my "hold" at the port was only 3 weeks. I spent about an hour configuring settings, PCM, Homelink, etc and near the end of that got a warning that battery level was low. In the middle of that process had taken it out for about a half hour ride. When I put the trickle charger on, it was reading at the lowest level of charge. So many of you have been waiting a lot longer than that, so you may want to look at that and get a charger on it sooner rather than later.
Could also be that the PCM draws more power than we expect; was the engine running while you were playing with it?
Old 11-21-2020, 09:10 AM
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I would think anyone who has dealt with govt agencies would not be surprised by this. They have zero incentive to be quick or transparent. Even more evident that this a red tape issue now with CARB vs EPA differences.

While COVID may bea factor, this happens all the time across all manufacturers. Main thing Porsche can do is sandbag hard in the future.

I took delivery of my car this week and have totally forgotten about the extra month I had to wait for the car. I hope the same will happen for you all once you drive it.

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Old 11-21-2020, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by aggie57
Could also be that the PCM draws more power than we expect; was the engine running while you were playing with it?
Was running some of the time but not all. When not, headlights were off. Configured several Porsches this way and never had any issues. So just want folks to be aware - you definitely don't want a dead battery with these especially if you've locked it.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dgtarga
Was running some of the time but not all. When not, headlights were off. Configured several Porsches this way and never had any issues. So just want folks to be aware - you definitely don't want a dead battery with these especially if you've locked it.
I had the same thing when my 992 arrived in July, and didn't catch it in time so had to call roadside to get a jump start. The fellow who turned up (in his beat up Corolla lol!) said this was common with new deliveries and often happened after owners spent time configuring via the PCM like we both did. That's where the thought that the latest PCM draws a decent chunk of power came from; I did see something about it somewhere else too but can't find that now.
Old 11-21-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrobc1213
First world problems...
Exactly!

thank you for your service sir.
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by peterdouglas
No. I live in a carb state (ct) and am delighted to have the benefit of reduced emissions, no matter how it might adversely affect the performance of my 992TTS or delay its delivery.

Apparently, given your views, you should move out of California now, rather than allowing EXISTING state rules to intrude on your right to own a car which violates the standards which your elected government (and their appointed experts) have developed and applied.

Why not register (and keep) your car in a non-CARB state so you and your car’s emissions can adversely impact health and mortality there?

To each their own - but why complain about the rules in the place you have knowingly chosen to live - whether or not you care about how our shared environment affects us collectively and will affect the health of your and others’ children or others you care about?

i myself am very happy owning a carb-compliant car which I hope will in the future enable PAG to continue to offer ice or ice-hybrid cars that have superb performance.
We all want clean air and we all see the need for these regs. BUT, the execution of these policies is classic government. (And it's not COVID related-- the 992 had major certification delays in the summer of 2019). Keep in mind that these are the exact same cars that were on sale last year. Re-certifying for 2021 is typical make-work, government BS. Nothing about that makes the air cleaner. It's actually delaying revenues for local dealerships, delaying commissions to SAs and on and on. It's a drag on the market, it hurts real people and it should not be accepted as the price for clean air.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by aggie57
I had the same thing when my 992 arrived in July, and didn't catch it in time so had to call roadside to get a jump start. The fellow who turned up (in his beat up Corolla lol!) said this was common with new deliveries and often happened after owners spent time configuring via the PCM like we both did. That's where the thought that the latest PCM draws a decent chunk of power came from; I did see something about it somewhere else too but can't find that now.
Makes sense. Dealer prep time too.
Old 11-21-2020, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Spyder8286
We all want clean air and we all see the need for these regs. BUT, the execution of these policies is classic government. (And it's not COVID related-- the 992 had major certification delays in the summer of 2019). Keep in mind that these are the exact same cars that were on sale last year. Re-certifying for 2021 is typical make-work, government BS. Nothing about that makes the air cleaner. It's actually delaying revenues for local dealerships, delaying commissions to SAs and on and on. It's a drag on the market, it hurts real people and it should not be accepted as the price for clean air.

all fair points - but not clear to me that there is any easy solution.
my car on order is a 992TTS, for which there is no MY2020 approval precedent, so I was well aware of the potential for delay from the time of my order.
Old 11-21-2020, 11:21 AM
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As someone whose car sat in port for 3 months, I completely understand the frustration these delays cause. Consider that during this pandemic Porsche is building a lot fewer cars this model year. My dealer said they are at 1/3 inventory and have half the staff they normally would. Every 911 is pre sold. We are the fortunate ones. I can say this now since I have my car and it really wipes out the frustrating delivery experience. I wish you all the best in enjoying your new 911’s in good health.
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Old 11-21-2020, 12:17 PM
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Never had low battery problem with delivery of four new Porsche cars in past 15 years. Dealer brings battery up to full charge as part of pre-delivery preparation. Not sure, but I think this is part of standard procedure.

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