Do you have a front license plate?
#181
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Well, your opinion. However I have spoken with two police officers in Fairfax County this week on this and other topics and they clearly told me this law prevents them from pulling over a motorist from any kind of equipment violation on a vehicle, which includes a front license plate. They are secondary infractions only that they can write you for AFTER pulling your over for speeding, reckless driving, running a light, etc. But believe what you like RDV.
The relevant portion only refers to the light illuminating the rear license plate, not to other equipment.
There are other sections specifically dealing with exhaust systems on scooters and window tinting (and marijuana but not really relevant to the analysis).
Since the state legislature saw fit to specifically list rear plate illumination, exhaust systems on scooters and window tinting but not missing front plates as no longer being primary violations I see no reason to assume the state legislature intended to include missing front plates in the law.
That said, I hope all of the cops in VA misread it too so I no longer need to worry about my missing front plate as a primary violation.
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Ross
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#182
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The ones that can read. In general I would say cops have little idea about the proper meaning and application of laws. Here, we’re dealing with a new seemingly complicated law so I’d estimate a 99.7% chance of a cop wrongly applying it based on not understanding it. Ask a cop if he knows what the Fifth Amendment is. They might guess compost or maybe gypsum. That one’s been around for a while but it has not set off lightbulbs in even your above average cop.
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The ones that can read. In general I would say cops have little idea about the proper meaning and application of laws. Here, we’re dealing with a new seemingly complicated law so I’d estimate a 99.7% chance of a cop wrongly applying it based on not understanding it. Ask a cop if he knows what the Fifth Amendment is. They might guess compost or maybe gypsum. That one’s been around for a while but it has not set off lightbulbs in even your above average cop.
The next time you need the assistance of an officer make sure you tell them what you think of cops before you ask them to put their lives on the line to protect you.
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The ones that can read. In general I would say cops have little idea about the proper meaning and application of laws. Here, we’re dealing with a new seemingly complicated law so I’d estimate a 99.7% chance of a cop wrongly applying it based on not understanding it. Ask a cop if he knows what the Fifth Amendment is. They might guess compost or maybe gypsum. That one’s been around for a while but it has not set off lightbulbs in even your above average cop.
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#185
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As someone who had a family member killed in the line of duty I find your post truly disgusting. If you knew anything about law enforcement at all you might be surprised at the educational requirements today. The cops I'm friendly with all want to do their jobs correctly and fairly and assist the public but uniformly complain that today a law school education is needed..
The next time you need the assistance of an officer make sure you tell them what you think of cops before you ask them to put their lives on the line to protect you.
The next time you need the assistance of an officer make sure you tell them what you think of cops before you ask them to put their lives on the line to protect you.
That makes my interactions and the interactions of many others all the more disappointing and tragic. Perhaps those meeting the standards you imply and who act appropriately might take responsibility and action as to those police officers who lack training or act improperly. It might make things better and safer for all concerned.
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All this VA talk reminds me of what a police state it really is. Somewhat related, a state revenue car with ALPR apparently was going through my office parking lot looking for tax evaders (unknown to me). A couple months later a tidy $1000.00 was taken out of my account by Fairfax County, and the bank allowed it. I call up Fairfax county tax office and they say that I didn’t pay tax although I only work there, not live there. I live in prince William County. I had to email them Google maps screenshots to show it was an office building, not a residence and provide evidence I was paying taxes in PW County.
Due to work, I’ve had to live in VA most of my adult life. I begrudgingly use a tow hook mount from Rennline and it’s very adjustable. I will get one from there when the Targa comes in.
Due to work, I’ve had to live in VA most of my adult life. I begrudgingly use a tow hook mount from Rennline and it’s very adjustable. I will get one from there when the Targa comes in.
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The magnets that were glued to the license plate bracket are rubber coated so as not to mar the bumper cover when the license plate is installed.
I plan to do the same thing to my 992 when it arrives.
Jason
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#189
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Here in Texas I've been pulled over just because I did not have a front license plate. I now use mounts that go in tow hook hole in front bumper.
In fact, I have one sitting in the garage that was on my Cayenne GTS. May work on other models. If anyone wants it - PM me. Just cover shipping (in other words, free to good home).
UPDATE - bracket has found a new home..
In fact, I have one sitting in the garage that was on my Cayenne GTS. May work on other models. If anyone wants it - PM me. Just cover shipping (in other words, free to good home).
UPDATE - bracket has found a new home..
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#190
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I still have a nearly new Carbonio for 992 available...
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#191
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On my 991.2 I glued rare-earth magnets to the inside of the plastic bumper cover and corresponding magnets on the plastic license plate mounting bracket.
The magnets that were glued to the license plate bracket are rubber coated so as not to mar the bumper cover when the license plate is installed.
I plan to do the same thing to my 992 when it arrives.
Jason
The magnets that were glued to the license plate bracket are rubber coated so as not to mar the bumper cover when the license plate is installed.
I plan to do the same thing to my 992 when it arrives.
Jason
Just for kicks do you have a link to the place you sourced your magnets?
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Never had a front plate in Ohio in 20 years… never got a ticket… since July 2020 I am legal as front plates are no no longer required…
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I lived in California for over 30 of my adult years and never ran a front license plate on any of my cars. I got the occasional fix it ticket here and there which I paid and promptly removed my plate. I eventually got a sto and show front plate mount, which works really well. Then about 3 yrs ago, I moved to AZ where front plates are not required and they don't even issue you a front license plate. LOVE that about AZ among many other things.
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Magnets is a great option. They work well.