Originally Posted by groundhog

OK, except his time was a claimed best sectors time - not a time that was achieved.

Anyhow, thats an aside, I'm hearing actual allocations will be released after the Silverstone reveal - of course this may be region dependant.

The other point to note is, around EU power woes, gas is up to about 88% reserve level but this is only good for 2 months peak demand, markets are off globally by between 25% and 15% with more to come plus headline inflation in Europe is just marginally below 10% with core at least 5%. The mistakes in the US were mirrored in Europe with the ECB printing money at a ridiculous rate through COVID. I do not see any significant improvement in the short term and it will take at least two years for the EU to sort out its gas problem through the use of LNG.

The economic factors and gas factor combine to create significant problems on the supply side for the car industry - so I wouldn't bank on any claimed delivery times. From my perspective, as somebody that lives and works between three countries, this is a problem.

Originally Posted by srwhitman

Austin dealer told me they will know allocations late this year or early next year. They expect US cars in April-ish.
They told me they are the second largest dealer by volume in the US (they are 2 stores so taking that into account I can see it).

Originally Posted by mcsmcs1

Please don't trust a word you hear from Porsche Austin nor any of the Weitz family dealerships. For that matter, you ought to be fairly incredulous when evaluating the veracity of what any dealership tells you in general. There are exceptions, but Porsche Austin isn't one of them.

Originally Posted by yesyoucan

hey ray ; no offense but you drive a modified 992 gt3 with slicks at COTA and do a 2:18(?).

There are many dual Porsche and mclaren owners and we do share lap times with each other and do know which are the faster cars .

here’s a mclaren 675 stock with surface transform brakes and Goodyear 3R tires at COTA . 2:14 lap time (I know the owner of the car (he’s my friend) and this driver (he’s my coach in Bay Area )

https://youtu.be/LaCdjpNvExE

Originally Posted by Mavzyx

By no means bashing skills as you're clearly a great driver, but how can you post this lap time as a show case when you blew out 50% of the corners? Any valid lap times requires some form of track limits in any form of competition. That being said the McLaren's are wicked fast when they work.

Edit: I get that this isn't a competition and HPDE. Just isn't a great showcase of a McLaren's pace when you blow out corners.

Originally Posted by yesyoucan

he has other videos /lap times at various race tracks and including COTA .

the macs have all the lap records at California race tracks anyways. Willow springs , thunder hill , buttonwillow , laguna seca, Sonoma ). In many cases it’s the same driver /owner of Porsches and mclarens .

many , many fast people have Porsches and mclarens . They all know what the fast cars are . They just aren’t journalists and sometimes post significant lap times on their very small YouTube channels .

The general observer does not know about these lap times

Originally Posted by subshooter

I would never even talk to that dealership. Prices are ridiculous. And with interest rates way up and stock market way down, buyers will be drying up.

Here is their sales staff - I wonder how many of them are car fanatics? Zero?

Originally Posted by groundhog

I own a 720S, a GT3 RS (and a 600LT in Vancouver) so am full conversant with what they can do

The critical point being, in that video, he didn't do the time claimed. Ah ok the hidden lap times. To be credible, they need to be posted on the tracks/clubs official site or other public access database. Moreover, they need to be validated by a timing official - usually with real timing equipment that uses the start finish loop and a dorian. Thats how its done.

If they are modified, they are not a production car they would be in a modified production car class.

Anyhow, whats any of this got to do with timing of allocations?

Originally Posted by sampelligrino

To be fair I personally wouldn't care if they were blind deaf bald nonbinary incels if they do their job and sell me a car, but that's just me...

Originally Posted by L2_ONBOARD

I think the intent for this thread is to give a leading signal on when allocations are released. The reason I said I’m number one is bc I should hear early, and if I don’t, I want to investigate.

my goodness you have a fragile sensitivity..

if you want to talk ADM, there are thousands of other threads for your meaningless input.

Originally Posted by sampelligrino

The only chance majority here have of getting said allocation is to pay ADM. Also more specifically to your point, allocation timing will also equate to ADM. The sooner the allocation, the higher the ADM correct? If I was hunting & shopping for an allocation, I certainly would want to know what ADMs are being marketed/paid and for when...

Think you need to re-direct your ire towards Porsche or probably more specifically American dealer franchise laws (to wail on a dead horse)

Originally Posted by Engeljizzle

There's nothing else to talk about because no allocations have been released in the US yet.

Originally Posted by groundhog

My strong suspicion is there may be very long lead times on this car.

Originally Posted by groundhog

Its the same here, the only news I have was that the initial allocations were meant to be released close to the Silverstone event - although as yet I haven't heard anything further (I was specifically told that approx 45 days following the initial release there would be a further release and then initial allocations would be made available). I took this to mean a possible ring time/ the Silverstone journalists drive followed by initial allocations. The timing was just about spot on for the Silverstone event - so if the rest remains true, allocations are just around the corner. Time will tell.

My strong suspicion is there may be very long lead times on this car.

Originally Posted by subshooter

I would never even talk to that dealership. Prices are ridiculous. And with interest rates way up and stock market way down, buyers will be drying up.

Here is their sales staff - I wonder how many of them are car fanatics? Zero?