WernerE

lol, I had the same thought. Lame from start to finish.

WernerE

Manny K? LMAO. OMG, now that’s funny.

Greek Car Geek

I agree completely, but JustaBoofer is a troll, and doesn’t deserve a response.

To add to your last point, it’s not just that they removed ~100lbs, it’s where they removed that weight - from every place that it matters (unsprung mass) and improves response and therefore driving pleasure.

We know what a special car this is, haters gonna hate.

GrantG

Much of it is rotating mass, which is even a much bigger deal than unsprung mass. Wheels, brakes, clutch, flywheel, etc…

Greek Car Geek

Touché don’t forget the Ti connecting rods

neoprufrok

Bro, I don’t think you know what you’re saying. Look into Manny’s history. Nobody here respects him. In fact, name dropping Manny in this forum likely will get you less points. I get you’re trying to make some paper, but one major tenet of business, service… anything… know your client’s and your audience. You don’t seem to know that.

InfamousS/T

there is life and buyers outside of rennlist , this is just a forum .

GrantG

Reciprocating mass , but same as GT3 there.

Justaroofer

Its not hate amigo, it's observation. The thing thats going to be felt the most is the reduced gearing. That's going to give a Peppy response. The reduction in the flywheel will help make rev up faster sure, but at lower gearing helps wrap out those rpm at load faster for a more engaging experience.

Typically for every 100lbs is a reduction of essentially 1/10th of a sec so we're not talking something earth shattering.

It'll be a neat collector piece for most so nine of this really even matters.

For a recorded 3.5sec 0-60 though, it's not exciting as a road car to a gearhead like me....

Want to know what else you click off a <3.5sec 0-60 in a manual from 2013-2017.... with a 355 rear tire? I'll let you guess. Lol

rk-d

Depends on what you're looking for. Fixing on 0-60 is not really the point of the car. I had a 992 TTS and sold it because the 0-60 thing gets boring after awhile, but a sharp, responsive drivetrain and chassis with a top tier MT never gets old, at least for me.

By all rights, the S/T should nail that brief.

PTS

Calling yourself a gearhead then quoting 0-60 figures in the S/T thread... Then coming out with this conspiracy theory about how some marketing exec at PCNA is moving all the chess pieces around to over-hype this car.. I'm just going to leave it at that.

Justaroofer

Me saying its a parts bin car thats been greatly marketed to be the greatest car that will likely just sit of all time all while boasting sup-par times? You mean that one?

Look I want to like it. I truly do. This is a forum though and criticism and factual statements are the name of the game.

I'm not here to ridicule the buyers of it and truly glad for them, but I'd bet a few bands that had this car not been 1963 production car we'd see significantly less demand and the price points that their commanding would be half.

The Dakar and Sport classic didn't even see half the hype. Yet both have become fan favorites. The Dakar for its rugged nature, and the SC for its truly elegant and sport design and the experience it provides. Yet here on this very forum the cult of the Porsche entitled masses referred to the 3RS as hideous and too flashy all while trashing the Dakar for being pointless or obscure. Now those same masses worship them, oh how the tides turn.

As I've said, the ST is the toe dip into a new business model for Porsche. A grand experiment of parts played to pluck at the checkbooks of the pedigreed kool-aid sippers(pinkies up of course).

I love the ST for one main reason, it highlights the gullible nature of the human brain. Being in sales and marketing I absolutely love it and what Porsche as a company has done. *Roofing just has a 65% profit margin so I exploit it*

neoprufrok

I'm aware of that. I spend most of my time off this forum. I'm just making a comment on his business sense. If he wants to make that buck, I'm all for it, I'm not commenting on that. I'm just saying that coming in here, not reading the room and making comments like that probably doesn't engender the crowd to him.

WernerE

Manny K ain't no "market-maker" for Porsche, and the ST doesn't need "the support" from the Paris Hilton of the YouTube car channels. If fact, I'm kind of put off by it.

alcoolmag911

he was making a point about media and marketing, not someones character. who cares if hes not respected. he has million subs and hundreds of millions of views. he represents the brand whether you like him or not. his garage is full of 911's. im starting to understand why porsche owners get a bad rap.
aren't you media? you should understand this.