Justaroofer

Lol, ok. Whens the last time we saw this much publicity?

These things start with her teams and get her blessing before going mainstream.

She's also a key driver of the rainbow 75 theme and woke agenda.

PTS

Literally every GT car Porsche comes out with gets this much publicity. GT3 did. GT3RS did. In fact, more outlets will drive/review the GT3/RS than the S/T. And they're not even a "numbered car"

You think one marketing exec of just the North American branch of Porsche is a shot caller for an entire globally allocated car? Sure.

Justaroofer

I went to 5 different European dealers while I was there in December.... the hype in the US is significantly higher. Just making observations. Agree or disagree idc either way. And yes, the US being a global market driver. All fall in line.

kyrocks

Congrats

PTS

LOL. There's 40+ pages of this thread alone of Roofer just relentlessly ripping the S/T so that's the lens I view his remarks through.

Anything to minimize what the car is...all marketing, and driven exclusively by a PCNA marketing exec!

disden

have to disagree with publicity surrounding S/T. Very limited articles and videos available for this car since it was released back in August. Most are European based vids are articles, but since they unloaded them in Cali recently anticipating we will see more soon. First round appears out

if you look back at releases of other models has been much more press

Daft Chief

The only "pending" S/T reviews I'm aware of:
- MotoManTV
- TheSmokingTire (Farah GT3 Touring comparo)

Definitely would like some words from Collecting Cars (Harris) or Hagerty (Catchpole) but I don't see any indications they've even so much as seen the car.

rk-d

The guy was complaining that the car was too loud to take his kids out for ice cream while driving with both hands at 12 o'clock. He was reviewing the car like it's a Carrera. It's a pointless review.

Not that I'm in the market for this car, but the hype train and numbered models thing is a real turn off. It is what it is - purely on its own merits this looks to be a cool car.

ipse dixit

The only real publicity (at least in the US) is here on Rennlist.

Diablo Dude

Yeah, I didnt understand his claim in regards to Coker and the S/T either.
She has an "event" marketing background at PCNA since 2010.

Justaroofer

Not exactly minimizing it. It's the Frankenstein Porsche of this decade for sure. Even AP said it himself, a little of this and a little of that while naming off all the cars they took parts from. The thing you have to ask yourself is can you enjoy what it offers for what you're investing into it? To me I couldn't care less about a numbered car. Those are for collectors and should remain undriven. That's of zero interest to me having sold number cars in the past due to this fact.

The target for this car is the experience on the road. We're talking essentially 150ish lbs lighter than a GT3T. The kicker to this is can you logically rationalize ridding the 992 of RWD all in the name of loosing 40lbs? That's essentially the trade off. Major mechanical advantage to equal what can be achieved by running half a tank of fuel vs full.

I'd never bash what someone would enjoy, I just am using logic in deductive reasoning as opposed to just jumping at "the greatest" as a select corp vetted few have liked to claim.

The 3RS for sure has had an immense media backing, yet the difference is everything about it truly was unique. Plus it reinjected life into the glory of Porsche and has established a major social presence for Porsche.

The excessive amount of numbered cars has definitely decreased what's actually special.



And to that of which is limited in feedback beyond YouTube videos.

Yet her specialty in training is fashion and sadly the PCNA site boasts her hiring as a champion of race and not accomplishments. Nonetheless, she's branding plain and simple. All avenues of branding. The visionary path carver, not a party planner.

Guest89

Selection of press personalities invited to drive the S/T - or any other new Porsche in America - falls under the remit of Frank Wiesmann and Luke Vandezande.

Ayesha’s job is focused on broader, higher level initiatives rather than granular things that Frank and Luke handle.

Finally, be mindful that very little of the “value” encapsulated in the MSRP - or, said better, the dealer invoice price - of a new Porsche is created by PCNA; PCNA is merely the North American distributor of the products, and PCNA’s actual customers are their dealers. The value comes from the enduring appeal of the brand itself, and the engineering teams in Germany.

I have been passionate about Porsche for a long time (although my enthusiasm has waned significantly in recent years), and I live in Atlanta, so I know a number of people who work (or have worked) for PCNA. The vast majority of them are unremarkable, and they would never find themselves driving any new Porsche if it weren’t part of their job, because the cars are simply too expensive for them to afford given what their skills and abilities would command in the labor market.

Coincidentally, I have dinner tonight with a friend who DID leave Porsche - and the automotive industry entirely - to make some real money.

PTS

The bespoke clutch/transmission specifically developed for this car, the shorter gearing and the shorter throws all as a combination will make for a huge impact on the driving experience. That’s what I’m after. The fact that majority of the parts on the car are taken from the other best 911’s in the lineup is a great thing, not a bad thing. How can you coin the 3RS as being truly unique and the S/T as a parts bin car when they both are 95% of the GT3? It’s always the last 5% of what goes into a car at this level that makes it what it is.

I do agree. The fact that this car is numbered has absolutely no appeal to me. I just want the driving experience. I don’t care if they make 500 or 500,000 of them, doesn’t change the driving experience or the fact that I will put as many miles as possible on it. The only capacity in which this matters to me is the fact that many will shove this car in the corner of their collection while others who wanted one and would actually drive one will not get to

You will certainly be able to feel 150 pounds but it’s not going to be the game changer of the driving experience. That’s going to be the clutch, single mass flywheel, sound deadening material removed, RWS steering removed, shorter gearing and special interior. If you’ve driven the 911R you know how much of a difference that all makes for the driving experience

dave2020

^ In addition to all above, on the SMT podcast, Patrick Long also noted one of the most notable changes that improved road driving was the change in rear diff.

Le Petit Garage

Gearing + LWFW make a dramatic difference in most cars. The difference between a 997 with and without a LWFW is stark. I think we're all curious if people can make those changes to non ST GT3s and how much that will be $$$$