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12-30-2023, 01:56 PM
#4846
Yeah, they'll only give us a few things for the .2GT3. The 3 things that I would love would be mag wheels, the clutch, and the shorter gearing. Those would be items that would make a difference in the driving experience.
12-30-2023, 01:58 PM
#4847
Mag wheels might be an option but a pricey one
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Greek Car Geek (12-30-2023)
12-30-2023, 02:00 PM
#4848
If you watched or read any of the reviews you'd know that, while different, the clutch feel is fine.
You don't even have to look far. In the most recent video shared, Camissa said "if you, an automotive engineer, want to know what clutch take up should feel like and how a clutch should engage, it's this—it's just perfection. From the short-shift to the clutch take up to the engine response to the whole thing. As a package, the powertrain is 10 point 0."
You don't even have to look far. In the most recent video shared, Camissa said "if you, an automotive engineer, want to know what clutch take up should feel like and how a clutch should engage, it's this—it's just perfection. From the short-shift to the clutch take up to the engine response to the whole thing. As a package, the powertrain is 10 point 0."
All that said, I'm sure it's a great platform. The problemproblem most the people's hands when driven as a daily as they'll be it'll be easy to smoke that clutch since most people that buy it won't have the needed finesse.
12-30-2023, 02:01 PM
#4849
I found a very interesting comment by one of them towards the end of the videos where he's comparing the 997 GT3RS 4L versus the S/T. Many of us who will probably buy a .2GT3 are very curious if we'll get all or most of that extra "responsiveness" in the S/T in the next GT3.
12-30-2023, 02:26 PM
#4850
What's your guess on the suspension tuning making it's way to the .2 Touring? I think they may find a sweet spot between 992.1 Touring and S/T, but feel they may finally differentiate suspension tuning between the touring and the winged.
Mag wheels might be an option but a pricey one
Mag wheels might be an option but a pricey one
12-30-2023, 02:27 PM
#4851
12-30-2023, 02:37 PM
#4852
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The biggest thing was they brought the manual over to the 991.2 GT3 which was huge. They'll have to bring some thing/s that are cool over to the 992.2 GT3 from the S/T. Why not offer up the clutch and mag wheels as 5 figure dollar options? That's another good way to maximize profits.
But it seems most GT3 owners actually track their cars and run them hard. If the clutch/flywheels combo of the S/T makes it magical, but can't stand up to the typical abuse as seen in GT3s on track, they probably don't want to tarnish the brand with a bunch of folks coming on here saying the car isn't durable. I'm thinking of it like a modified trigger with a 1.5lb break vs a 5.5lb break that most people need or will otherwise complain of NDs.
12-30-2023, 02:49 PM
#4853
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Pure speculation, as I know nothing of longevity of parts on the new S/T.
But it seems most GT3 owners actually track their cars and run them hard. If the clutch/flywheels combo of the S/T makes it magical, but can't stand up to the typical abuse as seen in GT3s on track, they probably don't want to tarnish the brand with a bunch of folks coming on here saying the car isn't durable. I'm thinking of it like a modified trigger with a 1.5lb break vs a 5.5lb break that most people need or will otherwise complain of NDs.
But it seems most GT3 owners actually track their cars and run them hard. If the clutch/flywheels combo of the S/T makes it magical, but can't stand up to the typical abuse as seen in GT3s on track, they probably don't want to tarnish the brand with a bunch of folks coming on here saying the car isn't durable. I'm thinking of it like a modified trigger with a 1.5lb break vs a 5.5lb break that most people need or will otherwise complain of NDs.
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12-30-2023, 03:05 PM
#4854
The biggest thing was they brought the manual over to the 991.2 GT3 which was huge. They'll have to bring some thing/s that are cool over to the 992.2 GT3 from the S/T. Why not offer up the clutch and mag wheels as 5 figure dollar options? That's another good way to maximize profits.
12-30-2023, 03:10 PM
#4855
I can remember my triple disc Tilton surviving many.
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12-30-2023, 03:23 PM
#4856
they should offer this in an R or S/T package of sorts, and the SW-improved dampening should just carry over by default.
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12-30-2023, 04:40 PM
#4857
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Why do they insist on putting a roll cage in the euro cars? I don’t get it, given the stated purpose of the car (plus it ruins the storage).
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12-30-2023, 05:11 PM
#4858
My guess is NONE of the S/T stuff carries over to the .2GT3. It's funny the people here who say that Porsche needs to add all this S/T stuff to the next GT3. Nope they don't. They could just take the RS engine, add 15% to the current MSRP, update to all digital dash, a few more cosmetic tweaks, and they will all sell.
Also, don't forget that the S/T items were all executed in conjunction with each other: SMFW, Gearing, Suspension, Delete RWS.
Mag wheels, WP, carbon doors/roof/panels...these are all RS things.
Models need to be differentiated. You can't have a Carrera then just click RS options.
Also, don't forget that the S/T items were all executed in conjunction with each other: SMFW, Gearing, Suspension, Delete RWS.
Mag wheels, WP, carbon doors/roof/panels...these are all RS things.
Models need to be differentiated. You can't have a Carrera then just click RS options.
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12-30-2023, 05:14 PM
#4859
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My guess is NONE of the S/T stuff carries over to the .2GT3. It's funny the people here who say that Porsche needs to add all this S/T stuff to the next GT3. Nope they don't. They could just take the RS engine, add 15% to the current MSRP, update to all digital dash, a few more cosmetic tweaks, and they will all sell.
Also, don't forget that the S/T items were all executed in conjunction with each other: SMFW, Gearing, Suspension, Delete RWS.
Mag wheels, WP, carbon doors/roof/panels...these are all RS things.
Models need to be differentiated. You can't have a Carrera then just click RS options.
Also, don't forget that the S/T items were all executed in conjunction with each other: SMFW, Gearing, Suspension, Delete RWS.
Mag wheels, WP, carbon doors/roof/panels...these are all RS things.
Models need to be differentiated. You can't have a Carrera then just click RS options.
There will still be product differentiation, but hopefully not to the exclusion of some of the main mechanical upgrades that would really enhance the enjoyment of the Touring.
Last edited by GrantG; 12-30-2023 at 05:17 PM.
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Greek Car Geek (12-30-2023)
12-30-2023, 05:28 PM
#4860
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If the next winged GT3 becomes hybrid with pdk only, I could see the next GT3 Touring become Manual-only with several S/T standard or optional upgrades (with heavy focus on US market).
There will still be product differentiation, but hopefully not to the exclusion of some of the main mechanical upgrades that would really enhance the enjoyment of the Touring.
There will still be product differentiation, but hopefully not to the exclusion of some of the main mechanical upgrades that would really enhance the enjoyment of the Touring.