Go trade in that GT3 for a GTS Cab or TTS Cab...you've never seen the panties fly off so fast...lmao

 

I did the GT3 Generations module at PECLA last week. Wasn't sure I'd be able to discern the difference between the 1.2 and the 992, but it really was night and day. Engine... Front end... How everything "felt." I went into it thinking I liked the 1.2 more, but I came out of it not knowing which pros/cons mattered most to me (body style, interior, engine note/smoothness, front end responsiveness, etc.). Ultimately, all I know is I'd love to have one regardless of whether it's a 1.2 or 992.

But is the 992 GT3 worth 100k ADM? Depends on your unique situation, I suppose... That's too rich for my blood, for sure.

 

Can you expand on the bold sentence?

 

Sure. Caveat though is that this is all subjective based on my interpretations and opinions...

With the 1.2, it felt much more "raw" in terms of the interior, engine and gearbox (both the 1.2 and 992 I drove were PDK).

The 1.2 cabin felt "smaller" to me, which is likely obvious if you think about design or in the context of the 992s cabin. That contributed greatly to the 1.2 feeling like a smaller car than the 992. The 1.2 feeling like a smaller car initially gave me more confidence in placing it around cones/corners than the 992. Now, this analogy is going to sound extreme, but I'm just trying to illustrate an idea: it's like if you drive a Macan and then the dealer gives you a Cayenne as a loaner when you go in for service. At least initially, you have greater confidence you're not going to curb a wheel in the parking lot with a Macan than with a Cayenne. Again, I know that sounds insane because the 1.2 and 992 are so close in dimensions and I'm going to get roasted for this, but please note I'm trying to describe afeeling and don't mean that literally. Sitting in the 992 cabin, it almost feels more cocoon-like with the dash and window sills being higher. The 992 cabin feels way more luxurious and therefore more "comfortable" but there's a certain confidence that the 1.2 cabin instills, if that makes any sense.

The 992 engine and gearbox are way smoother. The 992 is like butter whereas the 1.2 has more vibrations and clunking (in the best way possible for that awesome mechanical feeling imo). I didn't think I'd notice a difference in engine note, but you absolutely can.

Front end on the 992 is so sharp. That means you can ask so much more of it when driving hard. The con there is that you have to really have be mindful of your steering inputs at all times, especially over uneven surfaces. It literally goes exactly where you point it, intentional or otherwise.

So, the reason why I said I didn't know which of the aforementioned pros/cons mattered most to me is because they're not definitely one or the other. It's not really black/white. I like the confidence that the 1.2 cabin gives me in terms of placing the car, but I felt like the 992 cabin was more comfortable. The 992 engine is so smooth, which in itself is crazy impressive, but sometimes I like the raw nature of the 1.2 with all of its vibrations. And while the 992s front end is like a surgical tool, it's less forgiving in that sense. I guess out of those categories, the one that I tend to have more of a solid affinity one way or another is with the 992s front end.

But then there's the fact that I like the aesthetic of the 1.2 over the 992 in Touring form (what I'd like to be in the market for), but the 992 over the 1.2 in non-touring. And then the fact that I like the tail light of the 992 because I think it looks neat at night. Yada yada yada... and on and on and on... Tiring, but I suppose obsessing over details is sort of what makes us all Porsche people, right?

Well, hope my half-baked thoughts were helpful in some way. I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but that's what I got out of my 90-minutes with the two cars.

...maybe a 50k adm at most, for me. maybe not. lol

 

A few more days like today in the stock market and that ADM will be going down faster than a Thai hooker.

 

Are you also considering the fact that almost all Porsche new cars are pushed a few months for production due to that ship incident and the Ukrainian wire-harness supply issues?

The market is not one directional, and while the stock market puts pressure in one side, the supply chain issues, the ship sinking and now the war are pushing it on the other side.

 

I spent $1,100 to drive a GT3 at PECLA and my own conclusion was that to get the few seconds advantage over any of the Carrera cars or the GT4 requires a driver with a lot of experience on a track or at least willing to push the outer edges of the performance curve whether on a track or on the street.

watch this video — YouTube- comparing a 992 GT3 be base Carrera — results are surprising. //

You Tube

.be/gXkc_vZJt6Yhttps://youtu.be/gXkc_vZJt6Y
compare $300,000 to $115,000.

That $1,100 saved me $200,000 plus.

 

I see you’re still trying to seek some comfort in not being able to acquire a GT3. Not everyone who buys one is doing it for track times. I must have missed the memo ordering a Touring.

I couldn’t sell my 992 C2S fast enough…

 

That's unfortunate you don't possess the skills to extract the added performance nor the added experience between a base Carrera and a GT3. A regular 911 seems to suit you perfectly, which is great considering you cannot get a GT3 allocation. Just make sure you get the wheels in shark blue to drop those panties

 

Well if you're gonna buy a TRACK car and not take it to the track, what's the REAL point? Or is it just flash...?

In previous gens I've had C2S, GTS, then Turbo/ Turbo S / GT3. C2S was always a good car, plenty fast, especially now. GTS even more so with more to offer. Beyond acceleration maybe another question is 'what will you be happy with in 2 years? 3 years?' For me I guess it's either TTS or GT3 for the long-term growth with the car. Carrera is plenty fast for street driving though.

 

I would have opted for a winged GT3 if it was only a TRACK car. My car will be splitting time between Hwy 88 to Tahoe & Hwy 1 along the coast. YMMV

 

I know you were asking Smiles, but I'll bet our answers are similar. I'm buying a GT3T for the experience, sound, manual trans, suspension, etc. I live in an area where you can extract plenty of that without a track, even though I will be tracking mine 2-4 times a year as well. I don't give a **** about speed (a GTS is now quicker in the straights), the experience is everything, and there is nothing quite like 9k RPMs out of a flat 6 then slamming into the next gear. When I drive the 911R and the GT2RS back to back, I end up wanting to get back into the R. It just does something different for me that is sometimes tough to describe. To me the intangibles make the car. A base Carrera is plenty fast and a nice car, but bores the hell out of me compared to a GT3

 

Could not have explained it better myself.

Combining the overall GT3 experience with some of the greatest driving roads… what else needs to be said.

 

FYI friend just traded his GT3 to a dealer for 75k over sticker so dealers are paying 75k+ over sticker and then flipping for 100k+.