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Old 01-19-2023, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltsfan
Just got an alert on AutoTrader. There was a price reduction of a PTS acid green 992 GT3 to a price of $224,600, which is exactly MSRP. Maybe it's a mistake in the listing? Or maybe it's capitulation?

Anyways, not my color, but interesting...
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Its for sale by private seller. Maybe he wants out. Adm boys mass seizure attack starting in 3... 2... 1...
I spoke to him, he dropped the price to MSRP to create a bidding war and wants offers in to let it go to the highest bidder.

Edit: Spoke to him again, his buy it now is 285k.

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Old 01-19-2023, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
I spoke to him, he dropped the price to MSRP to create a bidding war and wants offers in to let it go to the highest bidder.

Edit: Spoke to him again, his buy it now is 285k.
Yeah, I suspected that was the ploy. Sh!ttie of him to do that but whatever.
Old 01-19-2023, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
I spoke to him, he dropped the price to MSRP to create a bidding war and wants offers in to let it go to the highest bidder.

Edit: Spoke to him again, his buy it now is 285k.
It seems like delusion is a common theme among 992 gt3 owners
Old 01-19-2023, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltsfan
Just got an alert on AutoTrader. There was a price reduction of a PTS acid green 992 GT3 to a price of $224,600, which is exactly MSRP. Maybe it's a mistake in the listing? Or maybe it's capitulation?

Anyways, not my color, but interesting...
I’d say less than 1% want an acid green GT3, but the 99% would say it looks awesome.
Old 01-19-2023, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltsfan
This is a really strange scenario to posit. On the one hand, paying a 50k ADM, or not, is within your control. On the other hand, your 401(k) tanking is pretty much out of your control, unless you go super conservative and sit in cash. Again, a strange situation to face, but I'll play along. The ADM is gone, poof, into the coffers of the dealer, bye-bye forever. But if your 401(k) tanks, it can come back and then some.
I think his point is that its not unusual for a GT car owner to have $50,000 to $100,000 equity swings in his brokerage account. So its funny to me that people point out a $50,000 ADM as being such a terrible "hit" to one's net worth. Never mind that there is no other car that can match the performance of a 992 GT3 at its price point, even with a $50,000 ADM.

The ADM "Nannies" here play a comical game of conflation. Its gone from actual ADM's in the first 5 pages of this thread, to people yapping about how many 991's are on Autotrader, to cars that are just "fun to drive" ... never mind the "economists" predicting Recession and how that impacts the potential 992 GT3 buyer....as if every Crypto Kid with a $10,000 account at FTX was a potential GT3 buyer.

Moreover, from reading some of these posts, you'd think that Porsche cranks out 29,000 992 GT3's.

Try 2,900.
Big difference.






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Old 01-19-2023, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe mac
Not sure I understand the relevance of the c2s being (your word) RARE. Just sounds like the word should be no one wants one, hence lower production numbers. It is like a local dealer here in PA who always seems to offer the 1 of 4 seafoam green Cayman, calling it rare. No Sh&%. No one wants a seafoam green Cayman

Anyhow, obviously buyers want the gt3 more than a c2s, so Porsche will build what the people want....when they can finally get their act together and build more cars! How is it possible we are still living in a market where Bose can't get amplifiers and Porsche can't give you carbon ceramic brakes. Seems inane, doesn't it?!!

USCTrojan, you mentioned buying a Pista or Speciale. You are seriously ready to buy a car that, once you actually drive, the value plummets? Buying at MSRP is one (all of mine have been MSRP because of my dealer relationship), but the problem with Ferrari has always been the market perception when the damn car hits 10k miles. Just mentioning this because this is why I finally got tired of the Ferrari game....
I don't really care about mileage and value, I'm in for the experience and driving cars. I'm totally open in buying a driver too but then I know it's been driven regularly and might not have as many gremlins as a garage queen that has been sitting and collecting dust.
Old 01-19-2023, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltsfan
This is a really strange scenario to posit. On the one hand, paying a 50k ADM, or not, is within your control. On the other hand, your 401(k) tanking is pretty much out of your control, unless you go super conservative and sit in cash. Again, a strange situation to face, but I'll play along. The ADM is gone, poof, into the coffers of the dealer, bye-bye forever. But if your 401(k) tanks, it can come back and then some.
Yeah, a 401k is a longer term hold so who cares what the value of it is if you aren't within 5 days of retirement and thinking about pulling the money of it. The 401k may go down in value in the short term but it will rebound in the longer term, the GT3....no so much.
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Old 01-19-2023, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
The 401k may go down in value in the short term but it will rebound in the longer term, the GT3....no so much.
Ever hear of the Four Point 0?
Old 01-19-2023, 06:34 AM
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Delete posted on GT3RS 992 ……sorry dupe

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Old 01-19-2023, 09:29 AM
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Any of the 992 tire kickers here gonna bid on the poverty spec Touring on BAT? Only $175k with a couple days to go!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-19/
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Old 01-19-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
It’s an example, and if he’s selling the 992 now for a profit, that may indicate that he expects prices to fall so he’s selling high.

992 GT3 doesn’t suck, just not worth more than $200K IMO.
Then 991.1 Gt3 isnt worth more than $100k, in that regard, yet still...they trade significantly higher. Go figure.
Old 01-19-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
Then 991.1 Gt3 isnt worth more than $100k, in that regard, yet still...they trade significantly higher. Go figure.
what will you buy for less than $100k that’s a better track car?
Old 01-19-2023, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe mac
The F cars were not as bad and Mac. I had a couple since the 7 year maintenance program started. The challenge, however, is having to pay for a warranty that runs roughly $6K per year. On the Mac side, I had a 570 and a 720 Spider and Coupe. Oil change was $2K per year, and the warranty didnt cover things like the suspesion accumulators. I never owned a Mac long enough to have to extend the warranty, but those are cars that should never be out of warranty!
The accumulators is the gotcha with the Super Series cars but at least now there are a couple of indepedent Mac specialists that can do it, and even at the dealer usually I hear about $4k for that. Still kinda ridiculous that the extended warranty doesn't cover it tho.
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Old 01-19-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Yeah, a 401k is a longer term hold so who cares what the value of it is if you aren't within 5 days of retirement and thinking about pulling the money of it. The 401k may go down in value in the short term but it will rebound in the longer term, the GT3....no so much.
Sorry, but this statement is "one-size" fits all that isnt terribly accurate.

If you're the typical American with their 401k in a 60/40 portfolio, you got crushed on BOTH sides of that equation.
And if you were overweight growth names you got decimated compared to the typical S&P index fund. Doesnt matter if you're only in your 20's or 30's or youre in your 40's or 50's.

Performance is performance. And complacency is just setting yourself up for failure.

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Old 01-19-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
what will you buy for less than $100k that’s a better track car?
Miata cup, Radical, Ariel Atom...


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