Originally Posted by Joe mac

Not sure I understand the relevance of the c2s being (your word) RARE. Just sounds like the word should be no one wants one, hence lower production numbers. It is like a local dealer here in PA who always seems to offer the 1 of 4 seafoam green Cayman, calling it rare. No Sh&%. No one wants a seafoam green Cayman

Anyhow, obviously buyers want the gt3 more than a c2s, so Porsche will build what the people want....when they can finally get their act together and build more cars! How is it possible we are still living in a market where Bose can't get amplifiers and Porsche can't give you carbon ceramic brakes. Seems inane, doesn't it?!!

USCTrojan, you mentioned buying a Pista or Speciale. You are seriously ready to buy a car that, once you actually drive, the value plummets? Buying at MSRP is one (all of mine have been MSRP because of my dealer relationship), but the problem with Ferrari has always been the market perception when the damn car hits 10k miles. Just mentioning this because this is why I finally got tired of the Ferrari game....

Originally Posted by DodoBrd

The funny thing is that most of these folks on the sidelines waiting for prices to get at/near MSRP don’t realize that when that happens the stock market would be at a 5 year low, high unemployment, even higher cost of $$, and the new GT3 will be on the horizon.

So, yes prices might be lower, but the opportunity cost of $200k and / or the total cost of ownership will push folks to continue to sit it out.

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

Not just that. New cars depreciate. 10-15% of the lot is normal. The dealer’s margin alone is pure fluff that doesn’t translate into market value. These guys think buying a car with a thousand plus miles that someone else spec’d for msrp is some kind of amazing deal, and the guys who paid ADM but still sold at a 10-15% loss somehow got cheated. Uhh they bought a new car. It depreciated. Life.

The 991 touring never sold under MSRP. These are now 5 years old. Getting a 5 year old car at msrp isn’t amazing. It’s 5 years of not getting to drive the car and tolerating someone else’s spec

they’re stuck on adm because they simply can’t afford to buy new cars.

Originally Posted by DodoBrd

if you got a gt3 at a price you want, would you still spend all day posting on RL?

Originally Posted by DodoBrd

RE agents have loads of free time these days I hear LOL

Originally Posted by Ascend

Hasnt that game already been transferred to Porsche GT cars? I mean the gt3 at 1500 miles is even considered high mileage according to posters up there.

Originally Posted by DodoBrd

my point is… look at everything that HAS happened and you still can’t get a proper spec or build able allocation for less than $50-$60k

Originally Posted by DodoBrd

here come Manifold saying he has other cars to drive… yet he spends his whole life on RL lol

Originally Posted by Manifold

I read years ago that Porsche makes about $25K profit on a 911. If that’s the case for the 992 GT3, that means that it costs about $123K to make the car, including all expenses. Throw in some options and you could say that it costs about $140K to make the car. That’s not a high cost, and reflects the fact that this is a mass-produced car derived from a base 911.

I personally don’t see how the car could be considered to be worth double that amount. My build for a new one at MSRP would be around $185K, which I think is a fair price which gives plenty of profit margin for Porsche and the dealer.

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

Not just that. New cars depreciate. 10-15% of the lot is normal. The dealer’s margin alone is pure fluff that doesn’t translate into market value. These guys think buying a car with a thousand plus miles that someone else spec’d for msrp is some kind of amazing deal, and the guys who paid ADM but still sold at a 10-15% loss somehow got cheated. Uhh they bought a new car. It depreciated. Life.

The 991 touring never sold under MSRP. These are now 5 years old. Getting a 5 year old car at msrp isn’t amazing. It’s 5 years of not getting to drive the car and tolerating someone else’s spec

they’re stuck on adm because they simply can’t afford to buy new cars.

Originally Posted by Boltsfan

Do you think what the Fed is doing with its actions is the equivalent of maneuvering a destroyer or an aircraft carrier? It takes time for these things to play out. There's the "R" word - we are waiting to see whether there will be a recession.

Originally Posted by Joe mac

maybe not "transfered" but certainly plaquing (is that a word?) the GT series for sure. Being an owner at MSRP (thankfully) and also enjoying the thought of longer term ownership, I am not worried about mileage. The thing that always stung me about my Mclarens and Ferraris was the annual costs - which you don't have with the Porsches...

Originally Posted by Manifold

What’s really bothering you? So many guys here in anger …

Originally Posted by Engro

The choice not to pay a ridiculous adm always comes down to “can’t afford to buy new cars” How presumptuous are we.