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Old 09-02-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
How about passing the money on to family or better yet to a worthwhile charity? DUMB IS DUMB!
And HAPPY IS HAPPY!

Definition of a broken record. We heard you 63 times already. Loud and clear. Let me be dumb in my touring in peace.
Old 09-02-2022, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
There reason there aren’t more high mileage Ferraris, Mclaren’s and lambos is not that these cars can’t be driven hard. It’s cause the owners (especially ferrari owners) have other equally cool cars in their garage, like McLarens, Porsches, Lambo and even high-end bespoke cars like Pagani's and Koenigeggs. So it's hard to drive all of them ... all the time.

I own multiple cars- mclaren, Ferrari and Porsche currently. I can see the pros and cons of each. For the life of me I can’t see paying 400k for an RS when I can get a Pista, 296, 720, 765 in a similar price range.
FIFY.
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Old 09-02-2022, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbravo23
And HAPPY IS HAPPY!

Definition of a broken record. We heard you 63 times already. Loud and clear. Let me be dumb in my touring in peace.
If you paid $150k or $200k ADM for your Touring then you are dumb but I doubt you paid that high of an ADM. I've also paid an ADM once in my life and never again, felt dirty afterwards and of course lost money on the car. haha
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Old 09-02-2022, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
FIFY.
Yup.
Old 09-02-2022, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
lawfully not paying taxes unnecessarily. If you’re selling appreciated assets to generate cash to avoid borrowing, you’re probably not very good at math.

everybody’s circumstance is different, but the “only cash” crowd is largely people who just aren’t wealthy enough to be concerned about significant tax liabilities.
I understand what you mean cause I was in a similar situation before. But you don't need to come to a anonymous forum to shout "everyone look at me, I made it!" Nobody cares about your personal finance really.
Old 09-02-2022, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
If you paid $150k or $200k ADM for your Touring then you are dumb but I doubt you paid that high of an ADM. I've also paid an ADM once in my life and never again, felt dirty afterwards and of course lost money on the car. haha
Nowhere near that, no. Also my first time, but time will tell what comes of it. I’m 40 and as long as I have my health I hope to own more 911’s. GT products @ sticker are not easy to come by. Time, relationship and luck I think are required.

Did this adm help for future cars? I fkn hope so. Cuz even tho I added a little Porsche kool aid to my smoothie this morning, I fully get why some on here are over the brand cuz of the games the dealers are playing. I have to get involved in the game myself and experience it first hand to know.

Amazing product sh**y buying process. I let that be known on the multiple surveys I’ve received.
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Old 09-02-2022, 03:57 PM
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What's your favorite dealer to deal with?
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Old 09-02-2022, 04:01 PM
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so now we are giving money away rather than buying a new Porsche? this begs the question why don't you forget about sports cars and give all that money away yourself to people other than yourself and your family? You are just annoyed that you can't buy a new GT3-RS at $250,000 msrp? and your jealous of the guys that are willing to buy one at the market price and somehow it is these other guys fault that you can't buy one for the going price emotionally or financially?
Old 09-02-2022, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by once4all
I understand what you mean cause I was in a similar situation before. But you don't need to come to a anonymous forum to shout "everyone look at me, I made it!" Nobody cares about your personal finance really.
lolz. This is exactly what I think of the folks telling everyone else that if they can’t pay all cash they shouldn’t be buying. You challenged folks to come up with a better investment than cash, and you got what you asked for. But by all means, be sore about it.
Old 09-02-2022, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
Hmmm, most of the “Wealthy” I know keep cash to avoid selling when they don’t want to. Or for a toy. They don’t have to sell anything.
that’s complicated, but generally people buying cars in the < $400k range are a lot more diverse in circumstance, and a lot more aggressive in their investment positioning. A lot of people are making very high incomes early-mid in their careers. They aren’t wealthy yet, but if they don’t **** up, they will be in 20 years. We’re talking Porsches here, not Koenigsegg. If your point is only people with > $100M can buy Porsches, than that’s just as ****ing absurd.
Old 09-02-2022, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
that’s complicated, but generally people buying cars in the < $400k range are a lot more diverse in circumstance, and a lot more aggressive in their investment positioning. A lot of people are making very high incomes early-mid in their careers. They aren’t wealthy yet, but if they don’t **** up, they will be in 20 years. We’re talking Porsches here, not Koenigsegg. If your point is only people with > $100M can buy Porsches, than that’s just as ****ing absurd.
+1. Lots of HENRY's (such as myself) can afford GT3 (or even a GT3RS) and but don't have $250-500K laying around to pay cash. Not with two kids, a stay-at-home wife and private school. Not if we want to stay married. Koenigseggs and Bugattis are for the hedge fund/$100M+ crowd, the .01%. I saw a video where a guy got the finance numbers on a Bugatti and it was like $40K/mo. I suppose if you're pulling down $3M-$5M after taxes that's doable (perhaps logical?) but otherwise how can you justify it?
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Old 09-02-2022, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pookiemalibu
+1. Lots of HENRY's (such as myself) can afford GT3 (or even a GT3RS) and but don't have $250-500K laying around to pay cash. Not with two kids, a stay-at-home wife and private school. Not if we want to stay married. Koenigseggs and Bugattis are for the hedge fund/$100M+ crowd, the .01%. I saw a video where a guy got the finance numbers on a Bugatti and it was like $40K/mo. I suppose if you're pulling down $3M-$5M after taxes that's doable (perhaps logical?) but otherwise how can you justify it?
there are people who look at a 3 million dollar Bugatti and wonder how you can justify it.

there are people that look at a 300k Porsche and wonder how you can justify it.

You cannot justify any of it. It’s all play money at every level.
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Old 09-02-2022, 06:56 PM
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The best we can all do is to die living
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Old 09-02-2022, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
lolz. This is exactly what I think of the folks telling everyone else that if they can’t pay all cash they shouldn’t be buying. You challenged folks to come up with a better investment than cash, and you got what you asked for. But by all means, be sore about it.
I was asking why not paying cash can mitigate loss and rationale to take a loan as a financial decision. You jumped in shouting why you did not have cash but are wealthier than most. Nobody cares a fxxx if you are rich or poor. Your sensitivity and defensiveness is a phenomenon.


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